"Barack Obama is a Mac, and Hillary Clinton is a PC."

Well I like coca-cola over Pepsi but I'm not too fond of Hillary so where does that put me?

So you're saying that its:

Classic vs Taste of a new generation.... interesting. Proven vs hopeful

Actually, I was saying that the logo/color combination on Obama's site REALLY reminds me of Pepsi's packaging. Hillary was simply Coke by virtue of elimination.

And you have proven my point that we are giving this comparison WAAAAAAYYYY too much significance.

or perhaps I'm just really really bored...

So...Obama with Pepsi and Nike and a Mac and Clinton with a Coke and Adidas and a PC ? Whoa this is getting confusing...

well everything is a billboard anyway

[confused cocker-spaniel head tilt]

Huh?

Hmmm - the sentence construction seems to be correct, but I will clarify if you think it's necessary. What I meant to say was that if they mean that Obama is a Mac Plus and Clinton is a PC jr., then I concur with the NYT comparison.

It's a jab, but it only works if you know what a Mac Plus and a PC jr. are/were. Otherwise it goes right over your head.

It's a jab, but it only works if you know what a Mac Plus and a PC jr. are/were. Otherwise it goes right over your head.

Ahhhh...my Mac Plus. I remember that thing fondly.

I have no clue what PC jr. was/is. Thus this is over my head as well.

..."Announced November 1, 1983, and first shipped in March 1984, the PCjr (referred to internally by IBM as "Green Dragon", and later called "Peanut" by several trade publications until a short while after its debut) came in two models: the 4860-004, with 64 KB of memory, priced at US$669; and the 4860-067, with 128 KB of memory and a 360 kB 5.25-inch floppy disk drive, priced at US$1269."

The original comparison was apt. But it must be a funny feeling when reference to something of common knowledge to all but those too young to have read anything other than elementary schools primers circa early 80s is met with puzzlement.

I'm old enough to have used both machines but am failing to see why your version is more apt than the generic Mac vs. PC comparison.

Are you saying both candidates are both outdated, underpowered and underspecced to run today's applications?

What IS it that you are saying? It is perhaps to subtle or geeky (perhaps both) for me.

That is why I gave it the confused cocker spaniel head tilt.

You are too modest Doug; you nailed it!

Aw, I used to have a PC jr. It wasn't such a bad machine, for the time. They had a firmware cartridge slot so you could load Basic and still have room in the 128k of memory. Plus it was the first PC machine to have a multi-voice sound box. I have many fond memories playing Ultima IV on it. :)

I was a Mac man myself, even though they ate power supplies like popcorn unless you bought a third-party fan. Didn't buy my first PC until 1999.

But it must be a funny feeling when reference to something of common knowledge to all but those too young to have read anything other than elementary schools primers circa early 80s is met with puzzlement.

Uhh yeah...as in the early 80s I wasn't even born yet ;-)

Nevertheless, still remember mom bringing home the Mac Plus from her job at GE. Who knew how that little addition to the house would change my life.

I never took you for a Newsvine hater, Rat.

Not at all, I'm a ThinkPad man myself. I prefer its organization.

That said, I appreciate Mac in my politicians (though not MacCain).

Yeah, I hate it when the mainstream media tries to have a sense of humor.

Or, put another way, isn't it annoying that its readers are expected to have one?

Perhaps a write-in candidate?

people are not computers

So right. They are all slide rulers without the cross hair, except for Paul who is an abacus in the hands of an experienced user.

And a case of Parkinson's.

And a case of Parkinson's.

As a doctor, I think he would know.

Ooooh!!! That's a good one!

Maybe Kucinich was BeOS or NextStep--just a little too far ahead of his time.

Giuliani=Microsoft Bob

Windows ME is to up to date for him..

Hosting means nothing.

Unless the campaign is running its own hardware somewhere, they are in a data center somewhere and the Windows/Unix choice was simply a choice between column A and column B when they set of the site.

with that said.. unless you "NEED" windows (capitalized and in quotes cause you never ever really need windows), you'll be hosted on linux (most of the time) as it is cheaper and its why linux is the most used webhost.
well apache.. which also runs on windows but a majority of the web sites out their are hosted using apache on a linux box

so while i agree with teh column a and column b remark, more apt would be
the expensive plan(win) vs the cheaper plan(penguin).

Hmmm .... I tend to think of it as proprietary v non-proprietary. In the past elections, the Rs used the proprietary technology and the Ds the open source technology.

Maybe I'm reading too much into a technology choice, but in my opinion the choice (and it IS a choice) reflects a political point of view. People are MSFT people or open source people -- and those are very different world views.

JB's point about $ might play in as well.

I think it's more of an aesthetic sort of thing. Any designer will admit that a Mac's interface, though some may not particularly like the set up, is easier on the eyes than the cluttered Windows.

I'm sure Barack's web designer is very proud.

yes because web design has everything to do with what OS you used. CSS is CSS is CSS... its the same no matter what machine you use to code it.

Well, that's not particularly true. CSS renders differently on different browsers, and the browser that comes with a Mac (Safari) or its fallback (Firefox) has (or at least has historically had) better CSS support than IE, the default browser with Windows.

Brian... yeah I get that much, but the way you program it is typically the same. It is imporant to keep in mind your users and target audience, but... I was just trying to say that the commands for CSS and the overall programming of CSS is for all intents and purposes - the same

good point though..

I think it makes him a typewriter.

hahaha or a chisel.

...toe in the sand.

stick in the mud.

River or sea, Donna the Buffalo, peace to all. smiles all around,

No idea what you mean Allen, but i grok it.

Sand = sea, for me
Mud = river, you see

Donna the Buffalo = Peace and smiles all around. : )

Macs aren't elite machines. They even tell everyone that its a PC. So, I think the proper analogy is a PC in candy coating with a different OS, but can resort to the common OS if the user wants it to.

Paul is a communicator from Star Trek, just what we need, but the media would have you believe he's not real.

Hillary can't be a SPARC - they were strong and efficient... especially those Ultra SPARC 40s.

Sometimes Hillary does kinda look like a .bat

Sometimes Hillary does kinda look like a .bat

comedy gold.... comedy gold.

Love this analogy.

Hillary, specifically, is a super-cooled XBJ-1001-RevA Politician Class Android.

Not sure what this is, but it's malfunctioning.

No. The XBJ-1001 was designed to be a ruthless female politicadroid. It is executing flawlessly.

LOL.

It takes very little imagination to envision a stainless steel and polycarbonate skull under that cold epidermal sheathing.

It takes very little imagination to envision a stainless steel and polycarbonate skull under that cold epidermal sheathing.

Ha Ha Freakin' Ha!

You like to think of Hillary as cold and unfeeling. In reality, she's a passionate and idealistic (while pragmatic) radical, which is why I admire her so much.

From this article:

An excerpt of Senator Clinton's senior thesis:

"In spite of his being featured in the Sunday New York Times," she wrote of Alinsky, "and living a comfortable, expenses-paid life, he considers himself a revolutionary. In a very important way he is. If the ideals Alinsky espouses were actualized, the result would be social revolution. Ironically, this is not a disjunctive projection if considered in the tradition of Western democratic theory. In the first chapter it was pointed out that Alinsky is regarded by many as the proponent of a dangerous socio/political philosophy. As such, he has been feared — just as Eugene Debs or Walt Whitman or Martin Luther King has been feared, because each embraced the most radical of political faiths — democracy."

More from the article:

Later that month she became nationally known. Given the rare honor of offering a student speech at her Wellesley commencement, she startled the faculty and parents — and thrilled many of her classmates — with a rambling rebuke to the day's main speaker, the black Republican Sen. Edward Brooke of Massachusetts, who had criticized "coercive protest." Hillary Rodham, who spoke up for the "indispensable task of criticizing and constructive protest," got her picture in Life magazine.

In reality, she's a passionate and idealistic (while pragmatic) radical

Right. That's why she voted to bomb people.

Right. That's why she voted to bomb people.

How many Congresspeople and Senators voted *against* that resolution to authorize military force? Less than half the Democrats, in the Senate.

I'm not saying it makes it right, but politicians are politicians are politicians. Too often, they put their political survival ahead of "doing the right thing".

Obviously, she's less idealistic and more pragmatic now than when she was a senior in college, but there is a clear streak of conscience in her.

Right. Keep rationalizing. That will get 'er done.

Right. Keep rationalizing. That will get 'er done.

When I express my faith around these parts, I get a boat-load of crap for being "irrational".

I guess there's just no way to "win".

I guess there's just no way to "win".

Dude...you're right. Not with any of these career politicians anyway. I guess that's the problem.