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Thanking Helen Thomas

The Grand Duchess of the White House Press Corps, Helen Thomas.

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On April 23, 2008 Helen Thomas of Hearst Newspapers did an amazing thing. She spoke out in the White House press room and called White House Press Secretary Dana Perino and the Bush Administration in general on the carpet - daring them to deny, in the face of photographic evidence to the contrary and a previous statement by President Bush himself, that the United States tortures prisoners. Astoundingly, Press Secretary Perino did exactly that.

An excerpted transcript of the April 23, 2008 press conference follows as provided by Crooks and Liars:

THOMAS: The President has said publicly several times, in two consecutive news conferences a few months ago, and you have said over and over again, we do not torture. Now he has admitted that he did sign off on torture, he did know about it. So how do you reconcile this credibility gap?

MS. PERINO: Helen, you're taking liberties with the what the President said. The United States has not, is not torturing any detainees in the global war on terror. And General Hayden, amongst others, have spoken on Capitol Hill fully in this regard, and it is — I'll leave it where it is. The President is accurate in saying what he said.

THOMAS: That's not my question. My question is, why did he state publicly, we do not torture —

MS. PERINO: Because we do not.

THOMAS: How can you [deny that we torture] when you have photographs and everything else? I mean, how can you say that when he admits that he knew about it? .... I'm asking for the credibility of this country, not just this administration.

MS. PERINO: And what I'm telling you is we have — torture has not occurred. And you can go back through all the public record. Just make sure — I would just respectfully ask you not to misconstrue what the President said.

THOMAS: You're denying, in this room, that we torture and we have tortured?

MS. PERINO: Yes, I am denying that.

Once upon a time such an exchange would have remained cloistered in the White House press room. Once upon a time Dana Perino might have left secure in the knowledge that no one outside of the press corps would ever know of the exchange and the glaring inconsistencies pointed out by Helen Thomas. Once upon a time...

Welcome, Ms. Perino, to the internet. The press conference was carried live on C-SPAN2 and within a few hours ThinkProgress and Crooks and Liars were carrying the story as a headline. From there it spread through various social networks and media groups including Reddit, Digg, and Newsvine.

And then it became popular.

Perhaps it was the image of experienced journalism asking the Bush Administration's latest talking head the tough questions no one else seems willing to ask. Perhaps it was dissatisfaction with the main-stream media's back-burner treatment of Bush's sign off on torture provisions. Perhaps it was that Helen Thomas finally asked the question that thousands of citizen-journalists and arm-chair pundits have been pondering since the sidelined story ran earlier this month. Or perhaps it was some combination of the three.

Whatever the reason, the reaction to Thomas' question has been extraordinary.

By most accounts it began on Reddit. Paul Hennell, posting under the name "Hennell" made the first suggestion of a flower drive though he is quick to point out that it's very much a communal effort. His comment was resubmitted to the system as a story in-and-of-itself by another user, "eddie964." Eddie's resubmission drew a comment from a third user, "MicahFitch" who set up a ChipIn account for the Flower Drive and donations from the community began trickling in.

I set up the ChipIn page after reading about the "Granny Warrior" story, expecting to raise enough for a bouquet or two of flowers, Fitch explained. I'd say that was an underestimation.

An underestimation indeed. Within an hour the account had collected $40. A few more hours put the total at $500. That $500 doubled in the next two hours and then doubled again in a little under an hour. User votes propelled the Flower Drive story up the front page of Reddit and then Digg as well; thousands of users clicked through to the site with hundreds donating to the cause. 457 donations and more than 3,700 dollars later the drive is still going strong and the emergant community is debating how to go about delivering the better part of a floral greenhouse to the Matron of the White House Press Corps.

One thing is for certain, Helen Thomas is about to get an answer to at least one question she asked: Where is everyone?

We're out here Helen, and we're grateful for your courage.

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{"commentId":1733046,"authorDomain":"killfile"}

Any and all advertising revenue associated with this article before the Flower Drive closes tomorrow will be donated to the cause. If that looks puny and insignificant I'll toss in some additional cash.

I think the goal now is a media spectacle. There's talk of trying to get Colbert to deliver the flowers (which would be awesome) or at least get the delivery covered on The Daily Show or Colbert.

Either would be amazing and I can think of few things easier for those shows to play on than juxtaposing Helen Thomas and "We're from the internet!"

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  • 15 votes
Reply#1 - Fri Apr 25, 2008 11:09 AM EDT
{"commentId":1733133,"authorDomain":"a0ted"}

I am so curious if President O or Hill is going to allow Helen Thomas sitting in the first row of the Press Room in the WH after she retired some years ago and got her farewell party and gift?

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  • 2 votes
#1.1 - Fri Apr 25, 2008 11:25 AM EDT
{"commentId":1733200,"authorDomain":"killfile"}

I'd imagine that so long as she remains the senior member of the White House press corps she'll keep her seat no matter who the President is.

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  • 11 votes
#1.2 - Fri Apr 25, 2008 11:37 AM EDT
{"commentId":1733298,"authorDomain":"mikerupert"}

I love this lady :) When Bush and his people couldn't stand her, they stopped taking her questions. It's hard when the truth sorta dogs ya :)

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  • 12 votes
#1.3 - Fri Apr 25, 2008 11:57 AM EDT
{"commentId":1733360,"authorDomain":"killfile"}

Well if you'd like to send her flowers I might know a guy...

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  • 8 votes
#1.4 - Fri Apr 25, 2008 12:08 PM EDT
{"commentId":1733787,"authorDomain":"a0ted"}

Helen Thomas retired, she got her party and gift.

She could be an observer but not taking the seat of another senior member of the press.

Is the same that a CEO retires and be back the next day to run the operations.

I love this lady :)

We all have an aunt in the attic.

When Bush and his people couldn't stand her, they stopped taking her questions. It's hard when the truth sorta dogs ya :)

Well, not long ago Chelsea told someone: It's not your business. Is this a preview of a Dem President in the WH?

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  • 1 vote
#1.5 - Fri Apr 25, 2008 1:33 PM EDT
{"commentId":1733896,"authorDomain":"killfile"}

Thomas left one publication to go work at another. She also happened to be old enough and have enough seniority to take "retirement" when she did.

It's not like she's sitting in the front row heckling the staff, she's a legitimate reporter doing legitimate work.

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  • 10 votes
#1.6 - Fri Apr 25, 2008 1:53 PM EDT
{"commentId":1733972,"authorDomain":"a0ted"}

Let's see how long Ms Thomas is going to last with O or Hill asking questions?

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  • 1 vote
#1.7 - Fri Apr 25, 2008 2:05 PM EDT
{"commentId":1734102,"authorDomain":"killfile"}

That's not how the press room works. The press ask the questions, not the President.

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  • 10 votes
#1.8 - Fri Apr 25, 2008 2:29 PM EDT
{"commentId":1734172,"authorDomain":"a0ted"}

Paul Sperry, Washington bureau chief of INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY, was thrown off the invite list at the White House after he grilled the president for more than 10 minutes about various political scandals

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This is a repeat that fits more here.

Please delete #7

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  • 4 votes
#1.9 - Fri Apr 25, 2008 2:42 PM EDT
{"commentId":1735219,"authorDomain":"eric-albert"}

Helen Thomas, has more spunk and fight in her jouranlistic independence, from the rot of Western journalism, than the whole of the corporate media. By God, and I am not religious, she gets my vote every time, when she takes on these criminals.

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  • 10 votes
#1.10 - Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:26 PM EDT
{"commentId":1736127,"authorDomain":"mikerupert"}

Well Killfile, I'm not sure I love her THAT much. But when I think about it, I'd be willing to spend a nice evening with her :) Hook me up.

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  • 3 votes
#1.11 - Sat Apr 26, 2008 2:54 AM EDT
{"commentId":1737593,"authorDomain":"a0ted"}

Well if you'd like to send her flowers I might know a guy...

Please, rely this message to Helen.

Wearing less make up is more acceptable for her age.

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  • 1 vote
#1.12 - Sat Apr 26, 2008 5:33 PM EDT
{"commentId":1737618,"authorDomain":"killfile"}

Wearing less make up is more acceptable for her age.

Helen Thomas was named one of World Almanac's "25 Most Influential Women in America." She has been honored by the Missouri School of Journalism, won the International Women's Media Foundation Lifetime Achievement Award and had a prize established in her own name by the White House Correspondents Association —the Helen Thomas Lifetime Achievement Award (which she has, of course, won). She's been honored by the National Organization for Women and received an honorary Doctor of Humane Letters from Siena College in Loudonville, New York.

Oh, and she's also written four books. But I'm sure she'll be devastated to learn that you disapprove of her choice in makeup.

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  • 10 votes
#1.13 - Sat Apr 26, 2008 5:41 PM EDT
{"commentId":1790512,"authorDomain":"incredulous"}

Just a note: for anyone who does not require ThinkProgress or Crooks and Liars to tell them what to think, the WH press briefings are available here for their own edification. You can find the one referenced above in full view.

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    #1.14 - Mon May 12, 2008 8:01 AM EDT
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    {"commentId":1733726,"authorDomain":"killfile"}

    Fairly brilliantly, the following from Horton Hears A Who has been suggested as the text for the card which will accompany this botanical motherload:

    "This," cried the Mayor, "is your town's darkest hour!
    The time for all Whos who have blood that is red
    To come to the aid of their country!" he said.
    "We've GOT to make noises in greater amounts!
    So, open your mouth, lad! For every voice counts!" ....

    And, down on the dust speck, the scared little Mayor
    Quick called a big meeting in Who-ville Town Square.
    And his people cried loudly. The cried out in fear:
    "We are here, we are here, we are here, WE ARE HERE!"

    With "WE ARE HERE" appearing on the little card-insert thingies that go in each bouquet.

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    • 16 votes
    Reply#2 - Fri Apr 25, 2008 1:24 PM EDT
    {"commentId":1734178,"authorDomain":"CliffDog"}

    that's perfect!

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    • 6 votes
    #2.1 - Fri Apr 25, 2008 2:43 PM EDT
    {"commentId":1735371,"authorDomain":"theottoshow"}

    Helen Hears A Who? And a What? And a Huh?

    She babbles so much and so incoherently in these press conferences that I'm glad she's finally said something that at least a few people comprehend. Isn't this the same Helen Thomas with the crusade to find the link between Iraq and 9/11?

    Yeah, she's a cupcake!

    (I mean no disrespect to the fossil - I'm just trying to do my part for your fundraiser the best way I know how) ;o)

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    • 3 votes
    #2.2 - Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:31 PM EDT
    {"commentId":1735938,"authorDomain":"wharrison55"}

    Far be it for me not to give the ole gal a bit of cheer by weighing in on this thread. I shall long cherish the surly look she gave me when seated nearby on 9/11 when a bunch of us were gathered for lunch at the Mayflower's Town & Country Bar (the only place remaining open nearby) after I made a rather sardonic comment concerning Mrs. Al Hunt's (she was opining on CNN at the time) knowledge of military matters.

    Despite being a very ill-disguised lefty posing as an objective journalist, Ms. Thomas is actually a very nice person.

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    • 4 votes
    #2.3 - Sat Apr 26, 2008 12:23 AM EDT
    {"commentId":1737258,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

    That'd be great. As much as Fox and its ilk like to bash her some of her questions are quite good. However, she does also go over the line sometimes and make speeches instead of questions.

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    • 1 vote
    #2.4 - Sat Apr 26, 2008 2:56 PM EDT
    {"commentId":1737326,"authorDomain":"wharrison55"}

    That's why Hearst gave her a forum for what she was all along -- an opinion writer.

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    • 2 votes
    #2.5 - Sat Apr 26, 2008 3:32 PM EDT
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    {"commentId":1733801,"authorDomain":"kharlowe"}

    I'm so old I remember when reporters of both sexes had balls.

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    • 7 votes
    Reply#3 - Fri Apr 25, 2008 1:35 PM EDT
    {"commentId":1733804,"authorDomain":"a0ted"}

    Tony Snow resigned/retired from the WH. He will be in/on CNN. He did not claim back the micro of Perino.

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      Reply#4 - Fri Apr 25, 2008 1:36 PM EDT
      {"commentId":1733906,"authorDomain":"killfile"}

      He did not claim back the micro of Perino.

      Does this mean He did not try to take back Perino's microphone?

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      • 4 votes
      #4.1 - Fri Apr 25, 2008 1:55 PM EDT
      {"commentId":1734001,"authorDomain":"a0ted"}

      I'm so old I remember when reporters of both sexes had balls.

      Were the reporters of both sexes w/balls banned from the WH?

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      • 4 votes
      #4.2 - Fri Apr 25, 2008 2:11 PM EDT
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      {"commentId":1733880,"authorDomain":"bppatterson"}

      this is awesome, i wish more people were like her. i like the note for the card, it's the perfect message. YES, WE ARE HERE!

      i love how perino still insisted on lying, it's worse than a toddler with lipstick all over their face.

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      • 5 votes
      Reply#5 - Fri Apr 25, 2008 1:51 PM EDT
      {"commentId":1733925,"authorDomain":"killfile"}

      It really is, but it's nice to see someone in the press corps standing up to that sort of balderdash instead of dutifully writing it down.

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      • 6 votes
      #5.1 - Fri Apr 25, 2008 1:58 PM EDT
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      {"commentId":1733991,"authorDomain":"a0ted"}

      It really is, but it's nice to see someone in the press corps standing up to that sort of balderdash instead of dutifully writing it down.

      I am really looking forward after the noises of the supporters of both Dems candidates with the questions in the debates, how is this going to play in the Press Room of the WH?

      I might copy the daily briefings like I did w/the debates that seems that aren't going to continue for obvious reasons.

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      • 1 vote
      Reply#6 - Fri Apr 25, 2008 2:08 PM EDT
      {"commentId":1736564,"authorDomain":"geejay"}

      Wow, det, you sure are here spinning like crazy...afraid to see the truth about the politicians you support?

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      • 2 votes
      #6.1 - Sat Apr 26, 2008 9:57 AM EDT
      {"commentId":1738038,"authorDomain":"a0ted"}

      afraid to see the truth about the politicians you support?

      Did you read any post of mine putting McCain in a shrine and that he is going to save the country? Nah.

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        #6.2 - Sat Apr 26, 2008 8:49 PM EDT
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        {"commentId":1734027,"authorDomain":"a0ted"}
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        {"commentId":1735289,"authorDomain":"nearing"}

        Thanks for this, Killfile.

        Helen Thomas is the last of the great journalists.

        And as for Dana Perino: When the Bush Crime Family finally gets what's coming to them, will she put on trial as well?

        I hope so.

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        • 4 votes
        Reply#8 - Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:56 PM EDT
        {"commentId":1736795,"authorDomain":"a0ted"}

        And as for Dana Perino: When the Bush Crime Family finally gets what's coming to them, will she put on trial as well? I hope so.

        I hope that Sandy Burger will get more than a slap in his hand for "borrowing and shredding" documents from the National Archives.

        I hope so.

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        • 2 votes
        #8.1 - Sat Apr 26, 2008 11:38 AM EDT
        {"commentId":1737319,"authorDomain":"geejay"}

        What Burger did is nothing compared to Bush and Cheney. And what does it have to do with anything?

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        • 3 votes
        #8.2 - Sat Apr 26, 2008 3:31 PM EDT
        {"commentId":1737442,"authorDomain":"nearing"}

        TheJonesGirl,

        You know that I have had to push the ignore button on determined0a1, because he/she says things that are only meant to inflame. So I don't know what your comment means but I am sure you are correct.

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        • 5 votes
        #8.3 - Sat Apr 26, 2008 4:23 PM EDT
        {"commentId":1737626,"authorDomain":"killfile"}

        What Burger did is nothing compared to Bush and Cheney. And what does it have to do with anything?

        You really have to ask?

        Bu... bu.... bu... CLINTON!. It's like a toddler trying to get away with something.

        I always want to ask this: for eight years we heard about what a horrific President we had in Bill Clinton, about how he had no integrity, no honesty, and no sense of Presidential dignity... so what the hell is up with Republicans now trying to say "well Clinton did it" as if that makes something alright?

        As I recall, Bush ran in 2000 saying he'd do better and be better.

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        • 6 votes
        #8.4 - Sat Apr 26, 2008 5:45 PM EDT
        {"commentId":1738008,"authorDomain":"a0ted"}

        And as for Dana Perino: When the Bush Crime Family finally gets what's coming to them, will she put on trial as well?

        I wonder if the next 4/8 yrs under the Dems the freedom of expression is going to be .......permissible.

        The Moderators of ABC were grilled to burned because they asked questions to O. However, Helen Thomas is cheered.

        Double standards.

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        • 1 vote
        #8.5 - Sat Apr 26, 2008 8:39 PM EDT
        {"commentId":1738284,"authorDomain":"killfile"}

        The Moderators of ABC were grilled to burned because they asked questions to O. However, Helen Thomas is cheered.

        Double standards.

        Yes, because torture is exactly the same thing as not wearing a flag lapel pin with sufficient regularity.

        Damn Democrats and their double standards.

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        • 4 votes
        #8.6 - Sat Apr 26, 2008 10:26 PM EDT
        {"commentId":1738358,"authorDomain":"a0ted"}

        exactly the same thing

        This is what HT does every day.

        Maureen Dowd got it right about the flag lapel pin in the last two columns.

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        • 1 vote
        #8.7 - Sat Apr 26, 2008 10:58 PM EDT
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        {"commentId":1735575,"authorDomain":"prompt"}

        Never heard of the woman, but my goodness all the power to her! And wow, what bull@!$%# from the Administration. Thank you for the article Chris - I'll be donating tonight!

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        • 5 votes
        Reply#9 - Fri Apr 25, 2008 9:47 PM EDT
        {"commentId":1735756,"authorDomain":"farmer"}

        Tried to send a few bucks but got only a graphic with a bunch of weird CJ's on it. Let me know where to go. Thanks.

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        • 6 votes
        Reply#10 - Fri Apr 25, 2008 10:57 PM EDT
        {"commentId":1735769,"authorDomain":"farmer"}

        Okay, found it. Sent a sawbuck or two. Happy Flowers

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        • 6 votes
        #10.1 - Fri Apr 25, 2008 11:03 PM EDT
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        {"commentId":1736517,"authorDomain":"PamelaDrew"}

        Fantastic story Killfile thanks. I'm not sure how to pass this along but you might. Contact for the shows is through Comedy Central - Renata Luczak renata.luczak@comedycentral.com.

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        • 6 votes
        Reply#11 - Sat Apr 26, 2008 9:37 AM EDT
        {"commentId":1736585,"authorDomain":"michael4186"}

        I wish more of the news corps would stand up to this administration and if their corporate bosses ate muzzling them they need to find different ways to ply their trade of journalism.

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        • 4 votes
        Reply#12 - Sat Apr 26, 2008 10:10 AM EDT
        {"commentId":1736610,"authorDomain":"a0ted"}

        The problem is that the press don't have enough of GWB.

        Let's wait for the nex new President and the game will not be the same.

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        • 2 votes
        #12.1 - Sat Apr 26, 2008 10:19 AM EDT
        {"commentId":1736706,"authorDomain":"courts"}

        What does that mean?

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        • 1 vote
        #12.2 - Sat Apr 26, 2008 11:04 AM EDT
        {"commentId":1736788,"authorDomain":"a0ted"}

        If Helen Thomas gets obnoxious with the same theme asking the President O about something that his thin skin can't stand, I will see how long Helen is going to last in the front row of the WH Press Room.

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        • 1 vote
        #12.3 - Sat Apr 26, 2008 11:35 AM EDT
        {"commentId":1737076,"authorDomain":"killfile"}

        Determined lives in a rather entertaining fantasy world wherein Democrats are omnipotent crushers of media inquiry and the Bush administration has been unfairly scrutinized and criticized by a massive left wing media conspiracy.

        Also, as I understand it, the earth's atmosphere is made up, almost entirely, of vaporized kumquat juice.

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        • 8 votes
        #12.4 - Sat Apr 26, 2008 1:29 PM EDT
        {"commentId":1737771,"authorDomain":"PamelaDrew"}

        If Helen Thomas gets obnoxious

        Interesting take on a question of Presidential honesty and a demand for truth. By that measure determined, "your Pope" would be the most obnoxious person we could point to.

        I'm assuming of course he sets the standard for the offending trait of honesty.

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        • 7 votes
        #12.5 - Sat Apr 26, 2008 6:56 PM EDT
        {"commentId":1738020,"authorDomain":"a0ted"}

        Pamela,

        ABC, do you remember the debate?

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        • 1 vote
        #12.6 - Sat Apr 26, 2008 8:44 PM EDT
        {"commentId":1738654,"authorDomain":"PamelaDrew"}

        Yes, what's the point? Are you checking to see if I'm suffering the memory lapses of McCain

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        • 3 votes
        #12.7 - Sun Apr 27, 2008 2:17 AM EDT
        {"commentId":1738980,"authorDomain":"a0ted"}

        Good morning, Pamela. No, I don't keep McCain in my mind.

        Watching the interview with O.

        It was an example of what is trash for one man is the treasure of other, or something like that.

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        • 1 vote
        #12.8 - Sun Apr 27, 2008 9:11 AM EDT
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        {"commentId":1778282,"authorDomain":"tabratunoa"}

        You know Determined, what you say doesn't make much sense - either gramatically or politically. Why don't you show respect for a woman who is brave, strong and honest? Could it be that you don't admire those qualities in a woman? Or recognize them as admirable?

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        • 2 votes
        Reply#13 - Thu May 8, 2008 6:14 AM EDT
        {"commentId":1778293,"authorDomain":"tabratunoa"}
        Gypsy-277954Deleted
        {"commentId":1778462,"authorDomain":"a0ted"}

        Why don't you show respect for a woman who is brave, strong and honest?

        That's is your view.

        Ms. Thomas golden age is gone, she is sitting where she does not belongs because she retired, got her farewell party and gift. Helen should show respect to her colleagues and gives up her seat for a new breed of reporters that would like to be in the spotlight also.

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        #13.2 - Thu May 8, 2008 8:28 AM EDT
        {"commentId":1778622,"authorDomain":"killfile"}

        Ms. Thomas golden age is gone

        Well crap, we can solve the social security crisis with that attitude. Let's just take all our elderly folks and shove them out to sea on icebergs.

        Thomas is smarter, more insightful, and more brilliantly articulate than you'll ever be. Your pathetic and juvenile dismissal of her because she had the good sense to take retirement benefits when she changed jobs is a poor veil for your puerile and partisan dislike of an iconic leader in American political journalism.

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        #13.3 - Thu May 8, 2008 9:26 AM EDT
        {"commentId":1782451,"authorDomain":"geejay"}

        or a new breed of reporters

        Ones that don't challenge the leadership, in other words?

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        #13.4 - Fri May 9, 2008 10:05 AM EDT
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        {"commentId":1779228,"authorDomain":"a0ted"}

        Thomas is smarter, more insightful, and more brilliantly articulate than you'll ever be

        I know.

        Your pathetic and juvenile dismissal of her because she had the good sense to take retirement benefits when she changed jobs is a poor veil for your puerile and partisan dislike of an iconic leader in American political journalism.

        I know.

        I comment about a journalist and not what I think about you.

        I have the good sense of following the famous CoH.

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        Reply#14 - Thu May 8, 2008 11:47 AM EDT
        {"commentId":1779240,"authorDomain":"a0ted"}

        Well crap, we can solve the social security crisis with that attitude. Let's just take all our elderly folks and shove them out to sea on icebergs.

        Where did I post something so terrible, in a bad taste and despicable?

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        Reply#15 - Thu May 8, 2008 11:50 AM EDT
        {"commentId":1779369,"authorDomain":"killfile"}

        In the thread you seem incapable of actually replying to.

        Seriously, there's a reply button at the bottom of each nested comment. Use it.

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        #15.1 - Thu May 8, 2008 12:17 PM EDT
        {"commentId":1779655,"authorDomain":"a0ted"}

        Use it.

        Forgot the magic word?

        Are you stereotyping about all the seniors of the third age?

        My comment is all about the seat that HT refuses to give up to a another corresponsal? of the White House like Gregory for example.

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        #15.2 - Thu May 8, 2008 1:25 PM EDT
        {"commentId":1780098,"authorDomain":"killfile"}

        Forgot the magic word?

        Forgot? No.

        The rest of your comment doesn't make any sense so I'm ignoring it.

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        #15.3 - Thu May 8, 2008 3:08 PM EDT
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        {"commentId":1779693,"authorDomain":"a0ted"}

        gyp

        You know Determined, what you say doesn't make much sense - either gramatically or politically

        OUCH! It hurts because I thought that I was improving in G&S.

        English is my second language and I am a conservative w/stripes of libertarian sometimes.

        Do this makes sense to you?

        p.s. Grammatically has two M's

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        Reply#16 - Thu May 8, 2008 1:35 PM EDT
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