

The Grand Duchess of the White House Press Corps, Helen Thomas.
On April 23, 2008 Helen Thomas of Hearst Newspapers did an amazing thing. She spoke out in the White House press room and called White House Press Secretary Dana Perino and the Bush Administration in general on the carpet - daring them to deny, in the face of photographic evidence to the contrary and a previous statement by President Bush himself, that the United States tortures prisoners. Astoundingly, Press Secretary Perino did exactly that.
An excerpted transcript of the April 23, 2008 press conference follows as provided by Crooks and Liars:
THOMAS: The President has said publicly several times, in two consecutive news conferences a few months ago, and you have said over and over again, we do not torture. Now he has admitted that he did sign off on torture, he did know about it. So how do you reconcile this credibility gap?
MS. PERINO: Helen, you're taking liberties with the what the President said. The United States has not, is not torturing any detainees in the global war on terror. And General Hayden, amongst others, have spoken on Capitol Hill fully in this regard, and it is — I'll leave it where it is. The President is accurate in saying what he said.
THOMAS: That's not my question. My question is, why did he state publicly, we do not torture —
MS. PERINO: Because we do not.
THOMAS: How can you [deny that we torture] when you have photographs and everything else? I mean, how can you say that when he admits that he knew about it? .... I'm asking for the credibility of this country, not just this administration.
MS. PERINO: And what I'm telling you is we have — torture has not occurred. And you can go back through all the public record. Just make sure — I would just respectfully ask you not to misconstrue what the President said.
THOMAS: You're denying, in this room, that we torture and we have tortured?
MS. PERINO: Yes, I am denying that.
Once upon a time such an exchange would have remained cloistered in the White House press room. Once upon a time Dana Perino might have left secure in the knowledge that no one outside of the press corps would ever know of the exchange and the glaring inconsistencies pointed out by Helen Thomas. Once upon a time...
Welcome, Ms. Perino, to the internet. The press conference was carried live on C-SPAN2 and within a few hours ThinkProgress and Crooks and Liars were carrying the story as a headline. From there it spread through various social networks and media groups including Reddit, Digg, and Newsvine.
And then it became popular.
Perhaps it was the image of experienced journalism asking the Bush Administration's latest talking head the tough questions no one else seems willing to ask. Perhaps it was dissatisfaction with the main-stream media's back-burner treatment of Bush's sign off on torture provisions. Perhaps it was that Helen Thomas finally asked the question that thousands of citizen-journalists and arm-chair pundits have been pondering since the sidelined story ran earlier this month. Or perhaps it was some combination of the three.
Whatever the reason, the reaction to Thomas' question has been extraordinary.
By most accounts it began on Reddit. Paul Hennell, posting under the name "Hennell" made the first suggestion of a flower drive though he is quick to point out that it's very much a communal effort.
His comment was resubmitted to the system as a story in-and-of-itself by another user, "eddie964." Eddie's resubmission drew a comment from a third user, "MicahFitch" who set up a ChipIn account for the Flower Drive and donations from the community began trickling in.
I set up the ChipIn page after reading about the "Granny Warrior" story, expecting to raise enough for a bouquet or two of flowers,
Fitch explained. I'd say that was an underestimation.
An underestimation indeed. Within an hour the account had collected $40. A few more hours put the total at $500. That $500 doubled in the next two hours and then doubled again in a little under an hour. User votes propelled the Flower Drive story up the front page of Reddit and then Digg as well; thousands of users clicked through to the site with hundreds donating to the cause. 457 donations and more than 3,700 dollars later the drive is still going strong and the emergant community is debating how to go about delivering the better part of a floral greenhouse to the Matron of the White House Press Corps.
One thing is for certain, Helen Thomas is about to get an answer to at least one question she asked: Where is everyone?
We're out here Helen, and we're grateful for your courage.
I'm so old I remember when reporters of both sexes had balls.
Tony Snow resigned/retired from the WH. He will be in/on CNN. He did not claim back the micro of Perino.
I'm so old I remember when reporters of both sexes had balls.
Were the reporters of both sexes w/balls banned from the WH?
this is awesome, i wish more people were like her. i like the note for the card, it's the perfect message. YES, WE ARE HERE!
i love how perino still insisted on lying, it's worse than a toddler with lipstick all over their face.
It really is, but it's nice to see someone in the press corps standing up to that sort of balderdash instead of dutifully writing it down.
I am really looking forward after the noises of the supporters of both Dems candidates with the questions in the debates, how is this going to play in the Press Room of the WH?
I might copy the daily briefings like I did w/the debates that seems that aren't going to continue for obvious reasons.
Wow, det, you sure are here spinning like crazy...afraid to see the truth about the politicians you support?
afraid to see the truth about the politicians you support?
Did you read any post of mine putting McCain in a shrine and that he is going to save the country? Nah.
Thanks for this, Killfile.
Helen Thomas is the last of the great journalists.
And as for Dana Perino: When the Bush Crime Family finally gets what's coming to them, will she put on trial as well?
I hope so.
And as for Dana Perino: When the Bush Crime Family finally gets what's coming to them, will she put on trial as well? I hope so.
I hope that Sandy Burger will get more than a slap in his hand for "borrowing and shredding" documents from the National Archives.
I hope so.
What Burger did is nothing compared to Bush and Cheney. And what does it have to do with anything?
TheJonesGirl,
You know that I have had to push the ignore button on determined0a1, because he/she says things that are only meant to inflame. So I don't know what your comment means but I am sure you are correct.
And as for Dana Perino: When the Bush Crime Family finally gets what's coming to them, will she put on trial as well?
I wonder if the next 4/8 yrs under the Dems the freedom of expression is going to be .......permissible.
The Moderators of ABC were grilled to burned because they asked questions to O. However, Helen Thomas is cheered.
Double standards.
exactly the same thing
This is what HT does every day.
Maureen Dowd got it right about the flag lapel pin in the last two columns.
Never heard of the woman, but my goodness all the power to her! And wow, what bull@!$%# from the Administration. Thank you for the article Chris - I'll be donating tonight!
Tried to send a few bucks but got only a graphic with a bunch of weird CJ's on it. Let me know where to go. Thanks.
Okay, found it. Sent a sawbuck or two. Happy Flowers
Fantastic story Killfile thanks. I'm not sure how to pass this along but you might. Contact for the shows is through Comedy Central - Renata Luczak renata.luczak@comedycentral.com.
I wish more of the news corps would stand up to this administration and if their corporate bosses ate muzzling them they need to find different ways to ply their trade of journalism.
The problem is that the press don't have enough of GWB.
Let's wait for the nex new President and the game will not be the same.
What does that mean?
If Helen Thomas gets obnoxious with the same theme asking the President O about something that his thin skin can't stand, I will see how long Helen is going to last in the front row of the WH Press Room.
If Helen Thomas gets obnoxious
Interesting take on a question of Presidential honesty and a demand for truth. By that measure determined, "your Pope" would be the most obnoxious person we could point to.
I'm assuming of course he sets the standard for the offending trait of honesty.
Pamela,
ABC, do you remember the debate?
Yes, what's the point? Are you checking to see if I'm suffering the memory lapses of McCain
Good morning, Pamela. No, I don't keep McCain in my mind.
Watching the interview with O.
It was an example of what is trash for one man is the treasure of other, or something like that.
You know Determined, what you say doesn't make much sense - either gramatically or politically. Why don't you show respect for a woman who is brave, strong and honest? Could it be that you don't admire those qualities in a woman? Or recognize them as admirable?
Why don't you show respect for a woman who is brave, strong and honest?
That's is your view.
Ms. Thomas golden age is gone, she is sitting where she does not belongs because she retired, got her farewell party and gift. Helen should show respect to her colleagues and gives up her seat for a new breed of reporters that would like to be in the spotlight also.
or a new breed of reporters
Ones that don't challenge the leadership, in other words?
Thomas is smarter, more insightful, and more brilliantly articulate than you'll ever be
I know.
Your pathetic and juvenile dismissal of her because she had the good sense to take retirement benefits when she changed jobs is a poor veil for your puerile and partisan dislike of an iconic leader in American political journalism.
I know.
I comment about a journalist and not what I think about you.
I have the good sense of following the famous CoH.
Well crap, we can solve the social security crisis with that attitude. Let's just take all our elderly folks and shove them out to sea on icebergs.
Where did I post something so terrible, in a bad taste and despicable?
Use it.
Forgot the magic word?
Are you stereotyping about all the seniors of the third age?
My comment is all about the seat that HT refuses to give up to a another corresponsal? of the White House like Gregory for example.
gyp
You know Determined, what you say doesn't make much sense - either gramatically or politically
OUCH! It hurts because I thought that I was improving in G&S.
English is my second language and I am a conservative w/stripes of libertarian sometimes.
Do this makes sense to you?
p.s. Grammatically has two M's
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