Polish Intelligence Confirms US Secret Prison Facilities on Polish Soil

Absolutely zero chances before and after January ,, those prisons are there to stay ''you will realize that if you saw one of them''
I could identify the location of of one of them in my trip to Moroco and another one in Egypt-Cairo-La zoughli square ''the rotten bunker is inside the'' national security section of Ministry of interior'' ..lol
The heavily guarded facility looks like built to stay for uncertain time

Kill and Fada. Gee thanks. Now I am pissed off!!! See yous at the party. Don't forget.

Sorry Sedekka , I didn,t get it , which party? did I miss a party ?

Fada. Not yet. Thank goodness we still have a world. Check nearing's site. You'll find what you're looking for.

I checked it Sedekka and yet I couldn,t find party , am I losing my witting ?.lol

Fada. hehehehe! Maybe. I'll send you an e-mail shortly.

Well we cant bring all the prisoners over here to the good ole USA, to eat 3 meals a day in the AC, and watch cable while they work out with the weights... We do still need these facilities... Look at the world around you.. We don't find out where the bad guys are by asking nicely! Come on people.....We still have to be able to do somethings that are outside our laws to get results sorry to say....Dont really see that a bunch of people that detonate themselves in the middle of markets need a legal sanction when we are trying to find their buddies to prevent more innocent men, women, and children being blow up while shopping to feed themselves.. I am quite sure if it is in their country .. they already knew about it.. it is not that secret and not that big a deal!

....Dont really see that a bunch of people that detonate themselves in the middle of markets need a legal sanction when we are trying to find their buddies to prevent more innocent men, women, and children being blow up while shopping to feed themselves.. I am quite sure if it is in their country .. they already knew about it.. it is not that secret and not that big a deal!

Considering the outrage this caused in Germany, I would say German citizens have a huge problem with American authorities kidnapping their fellow citizens. Especially if they were only kidnapped due to being born with another a passport.

And to follow your logic, let's say Russia would open all these secret prisons around the globe and start to kidnap American citizens, because they pose a threat, you'd really agree with that?

I mean who are you Americans to go around the world and kidnap law abiding citizens?!?

Xan. Brilliantly said. I'd also like an answer to your question. How would America feel if Russia did this?

Well nobody said anything about kidnapping citizens of Germany...I specifically said people who blow themselves up in markets killing your citizens!!! Please read!! If we 'arrest' those people they are then subject to all the loopholes of laws that will not allow us to obtain info from them as to their activities and co-horts. Sorry but when you are talking about killing families of people in Germany or anywhere else..Some extreme measures have to be taken to ensure the freedom you enjoy to sit there and make these comments... Good Luck! Hope you are never a victim of anything like this, because I sure dont want to hear how sad you are when someone you love dies like that!! Oh and FYI yes Russia has them too!!! And they are set up in other countries as well.. They obducted Americans during the Korean conflict and took them to the Soviet Union..Remember???? Please go read a book or something and get educated.

As Killfile said and

They obducted Americans during the Korean conflict and took them to the Soviet Union..Remember????

No, I don't remember that conflict has been some time ago. So where are these ominous Russian prisons today?

Yes that does pose a problem when they are in pieces...lol. But some of them we catch before that happens, then we have to have a place to take them..

How do you arrest people who blow themselves up in markets?

In fact they are holding and torturing suspects for no charge and many of those suspects were released because they are innocent .

No big deal , they are not human being to be compensated by law because law can,t be applied in secret prisons...so they are collateral damage of no value ..
this is the sort of modern civilization that excuses kidnapping in secret prisons\

Not so much different from terrorism

I know a decent Christian friend from Iraq 'whose bad luck let him return to Iraq before the war'' .
He was captured because he was existing by chance in a market when a wired car was exploded . He was detained and tortured for 4 months. Now he is disabled physically and mentally.

This was an example for the botched arrest of innocents. They arrest whoever they can catch, as if the criminals will wait in the site of explosion to be caught by soldiers!!

Ok how many actual criminals have we caught.. more than innocent people.. Yes.. or are the prisons filled with all innocents?? What is the answer to not try to catch them? or to attempt to catch them? Not sure what your going for here.. Nothing is fullproof! But I shouldnt want to say I wasnt suspicious of someone and could have stopped something then didnt..

Ok how many actual criminals have we caught.. more than innocent people.. Yes.. or are the prisons filled with all innocents??

Have to find the statistics again, but many more innocents were kept in Guantanamo than guilty people. Most, who the US claims were found on battlefields, were actually sold to the authorities for a decent head money. You get the unliked in a neighborhood like that, but not necessarily the guilty ones. Or do you think it's a coincidence that there are I think about 100 trials to be expected, when there are still about 500 imprisoned there. And I am sure that the prisons look similar.

And honestly, had you or I been subjected to that treatment they receive in Guantanamo, we might go back looking for revenge as well.

Unfortunately our system doesnt allow us to easily extract info...legally from terrorists that would just assume die. This brings us to the solution of the camps..Sorry to say it is a lessor of 2 evils, we let them run free, run free within our judicial system by clothing feeding and providing Cable TV and AC to, or we put them into harsh camps where MOST of them need to be where we can extract info from them about other people who dont mind killing ALOT of innocent people, like buildings full of them and planes full of them.. remember that..And yes there are always innocent people who are wrongly accused of things, and there are innocent people who die as well..But there should always be more bad guys killed or imprisoned than good guys.. and there are! So it seems like the system which is not without flaws, we dont live in a utopia, is working fine. If you have some view of a perfect system then you might want to talk to Karl Marx or one of those guys.. they had the same idea.. didnt work out too well.

Absolutely we should try to catch terrorists... and then we should try to determine -- fairly, reasonably, and legally -- if the people we've caught are terrorists.

Exactly.
The suspect is a suspect not a criminal and he might give false confession under torture or he might wince to harsh torture and die because he has nothing to tell

The unfair detension and torture didn,t make the world a safer place ,
on contrary it fueld hatred among fundamentalost muslems and it increased the number of recruited terrorists and the number of terrorist operations comparing to their numbers before anti-terror war

we put them into harsh camps where MOST of them need to be where we can extract info from them about other people who dont mind killing ALOT of innocent people, like buildings full of them and planes full of them.. remember that.

The thing is that it seems most in those camps are not terrorists. Watch the documentary Taxi to the dark side and judged again. There are many high-profile Americans, who are involved in the government and military saying how pointless it is what's being done.

And honestly, you will not be able to eradicate terrorism by scooping to the level of terrorist, simply because these tactics will loose you needed allies and increase the number of you opponents.

Robert. What does what you said have to do with the article posted?

Ok wow you bone heads... The bombing today kind of backs up my point now doesnt it...lol

How so? You had the torture camps for what 5,6, or 7 years? Where was the evidence you got through your torture to prevent this? I guess it proves that you have no point.

I find boneheads is an offensive world. This is just belittling what we are trying to knock down. Perhaps you should go to Dennis' link on how to approach people with respect instead of name calling. That's rude and uncalled for.

''Boneheads'' is more suitable to name those who are supporting ''retaliation'' at innocents by torturing them in secret jails to cover up the utter failure of anti-terror bullies in recognizing and chasing the true terrorists.

It,s like give the manstream some perished suspects better than nothing.

Do you have good numbers at how many innocents to how many criminals were allegedly tortured in these camps?

I uess that CIA and Pentagon themselfves don,t have numbers because the tortured innocents in their glorious mission are just trifle collateral damage

Good information Xanthiana.
And those 400 who have not been tried are the inmates of only one of US,s prisons on foreign countries. No one knows about the inmates detained in other secret prisons allover the world ..this is why they are made secretive.