Not That It's Any Of Our Business, But Bristol Palin Will Be Marrying A High-School Drop-Out Who Likes Obama

I also got the feeling that he is interested in having a son.  I could chalk that up to his youth, but maybe he doesn't value the idea of daughters.

That thought crossed my mind. Wha't wrong with having a daughter?

Wha't wrong with having a daughter?

Aside from the fact that they always break their dads' hearts?  Nothing.

Aside from the fact that they always break their dads' hearts?  Nothing

Yeah, I have two daughters myself. Hopefully when they grow up they will be proud to be woman.

Ask Todd Palin that question.

Touché!

It you don't need to care, don't care. Looks like you care enought to come here and yawn a few sentences of boring verbiage. Why showboat?

Looks like it touched a nerve. Palin is only where she is because of the support of close-minded sheeple at least one of whom showed up here today.

Rob,

It matters because it is a family values issue, which is an issue that the GOP has carried like a battle-flag for years now. So now we know that as long as the knocked-up, un-married teen is white and comes from "good stock" then it is ok. If that were either of Obama's daughters, he'd be forced to drop out of the race.

So now we know that as long as the knocked-up, un-married teen is white and comes from "good stock" then it is ok.

Aw, golly-gee, Mars, stop it. Doggone it, you are showing him up as hypocrite.

Ah, well, on second thought, let me join in too. Rob Ballew above tries to pretend that he above such petty matters. Perhaps, he remembers who wrote this:

Rob Ballew

Good point Alistair, although I doubt it is very damaging to Obamas campaign. Obama could kill a litter of puppies and some on the left would find a way to advocate it. Thanks for stopping by.

Could it be Rob Ballew himself? Ya betcha! Doggone it, Rob, now you've just shown yourself to be a good hypocrite who likes to call others hypocrites.

Rob, any comments?

Rob,

I am over this bash Palin at all cost garbage.

Get back to me when you're over the "Blindly support Palin at all cost" garbage, too, also, by golly ya betcha darn tootin'

PrezO there ya go again with the radical center talkin' points!

So go have a beer and watch a ballgame. We'll keep on bashing the mother@!$%#ers for their family values @!$%# they never live up to. Someone's gotta do it.

Its not so much the actions of the boy but the hyprocry (sp) of the parents.  Its that do as I tell you not as I do.  I am above my law.  Its that superior thinking that I really am above it all.

Ah so I see, but how is me talking of Obama and you talking about a kid/teen make me a hypocrite. You see I went after the source and his worshippers not a kid who if he was not associated to Palin would be someone you (Obama supporters) might even stand up for. Hence me calling you a hypocrite. I am cool with you being @!$%#s to Palin but when her children get involved is where it kind of seems like Bull@!$%#. But hey keep riding your high horse and pretending you have the moral high ground when in truth you are no better than the party you hate.

Worshippers?

I've seen far more worshipful behavior from Palin followers.

Oh, and Rob, Palin makes her kids the issue by dragging them out and using them when needed (like to face a hostile hockey crowd).  Pretty despicable of her.

So she should not be proud of her children? I get it now thanks for the clarification.

Surely you are just playing dumb, right? How are you being hypocritical?? It's not just this one comment, it's a pattern. I checked your comments page and you go around reprimanding the liberals for talking crap, while you yourself have demonstrated that you talk like that too and furthermore, you never reprimand your buddy rightwingers for talking crap. That, my friend, is hypocrisy. If you can't see it, too bad. Not even your God is gonna help you to see it.I can sense the anger by your usage of strong invectives.

That's what happens when someone's hypocrisy and double standards are publicly exposed. You know you should stop pretending that you are better than others cos you ain't. So, please give up that holier-than-thou attitude.

AH I see but if one of my right wing buddies went on to attack one of Obama or Bidens children and I saw it I would say something. My issue is you not only put down Johnston but anyone who has not graduated highschool or had children at an early age. It just seems hypocritcal to me. As I said feel free to be as big a douche as you want about Palin but don't you think her daughter and Jonston have enough to deal with without this @!$%#. So I guess if that is hypocritical than I am good with it.

Buddy, we've long moved on from children to larger stuff. As I said above:

I checked your comments page and you go around reprimanding the liberals for talking crap, while you yourself have demonstrated that you talk like that too and furthermore, you never reprimand your buddy rightwingers for talking crap. That, my friend, is hypocrisy.

Nothing to do with children. It's bigger than that.

It's just your holier-than-thou attitude that is hypocritical.

I'm quite certain that if Sen. Obama's eldest daughter had gotten knocked up by a high school dropout, we'd be hearing about it and reading about it daily on conservative blogs, radio shows, and tv shows. 

And for someone who pretends that he tries hard to play nice, it's a bit surprising that just in this single thread, you've used these words so far:

- @!$%#

- @!$%#

- @!$%#s

- Bull@!$%#

- douche

Do you see the pattern? You like to think you are ah-so-goody-goody-nice when you are actually just an angry old frustrated man who likes to live in his own fantasyland where he is the good white knight fighting off all those dirty liberal supporters of that black man who you once referred to as Obaminator.

It's a pity you refuse to acknowledge reality.

Ah so the issue is my foul mouth and me being a bit partisan. Whatever man I love how the race card gets played whenever any evil conservative dare question some thing Obama or his supporters do. Point proven I know to not jump into another left wing circle jerk again thanks for the lesson.

Ah so the issue is my foul mouth and me being a bit partisan.

A bit partisan? Surely you jest? This comes back to what I said - you fail to recognize what you are. It's like some part of you wants to be a good person and the other part wants to be bad. In the struggle of this split-personality, the bad one comes through on the internet and displays itself with a holier-than-thou attitude.

As for the foul mouth, you missed the point again. Point is you only use it against leftwingers, never against rightwingers. So, again, that makes you just as partisan as Sarah Palin. So, quit fooling yourself into thinking that you are only a bit partisan. You are partisan, you have double standards but only you don't see it.

Whatever man I love how the race card gets played whenever any evil conservative dare question some thing Obama or his supporters do.

Hmm, I don't remember saying anything about race or about evil. Typical talking points from the cons. Looks like race and evil are sure playing in your mind. Maybe you have some racism issues too? I don't know. Only you can answer that truthfully.

Point proven I know to not jump into another left wing circle jerk again thanks for the lesson.

Play the victim when your caught with your pants down. These internet games get old, my friend. And thanks for the parting shot from that rude mouth of yours, my friend. If you were a non-partisan person, you probably would've learned by now how to interact with the left-wing circle jerk like you call it, instead of coming in with a defensive attitude, a holier-than-the-damn-libs attitude.

Go in peace, my friend. I hope you find yourself one day. Good luck.

I checked your comments page and you go around reprimanding the liberals for talking crap, while you yourself have demonstrated that you talk like that too and furthermore, you never reprimand your buddy rightwingers for talking crap.

PrezO, this is very common with the Right wing recently. Their new strategy is to play innocent, while running one of the most offensive campaigns I have seen in my life-time. They pretend that people are "attacking" children, when they are not; they pretend people are being sexist when they question Palin's "policies"; they harbor racism from their peers, then pretend that the race card is thrown around carelessly by the Left.

These are the tactics of a desperate party, losing it's power. Sad.

I for one say losing their power cannot come soon enough, it needs to happen before this country is totally destroyed. 

I for one say losing their power cannot come soon enough, it needs to happen before this country is totally destroyed.

Sally York

It's not just the Republicans who are doing damage. The Democrats in Congress were just as complicit in enacting the AIG bailout and the $700B bailout into law. These are abysmally bad applications of federal funds, yet pols on both sides of the aisle drove them through anyway.

Congress and the president are out of their element and out of control with respect to the looming financial crisis. Expect them to do more damage as Mr. Bush's "house of cards" (fourth-to-last paragaph on this page) continues to topple.

Oh, and peep this. The Treasury is strong-arming banks while waving the flag of patriotism. Constitution? What Constitution?

They will have a Cinderella wedding on the front lawn of the White House with all the trappings.

And guess who won't be invited......but who will get the bill.

That's right boys and girls of the vine - you, me and uncle freddie.

Ha, that happy little couple won't get within 500 meters of the white house lawn.  They can get married on the other side of the fence with all the protestors.

They can get married on the other side of the fence with all the protestors.

Mykola Bilokonsky

Bristol Palin didn't choose her mother and is not accountable for her mother's actions. Why do you want to see her deprived of a wedding at the White House, should the opportunity present itself?

Why do you want to see her deprived of a wedding at the White House, should the opportunity present itself?

Dude, why do you want to have the American tax payers pay for a private wedding should the opportunity present itself?

And, aren't you mixing something up? Why should she get married at the White House? I thought the White House was for the president. The VP lives somewhere else, or is supposed to:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_One_Observatory_Circle

The VP and his/her family live at the Naval Observatory.

Dude, why do you want to have the American tax payers pay for a private wedding should the opportunity present itself?

I don't think catering weddings for families of elected officials is an appropriate use of government funds. But that was not the issue. Please stay on topic.

Why should she get married at the White House?

No one said she should get married at the White House. That was just the scenario in post #5.2, which I was responding to.

Unless she is in jail by then and the old man is raising the kids on his oil field money, defunct fishing business and snowmobiling activities.   They may have a paid for house however. 

You Betcha'

babin, looks like you saw Baron's post and thought "how would a maverick respond to this?"  ;-)

yep and they just keep chewin' that chaw and gnawing that straw....and dont care where the spit hits ya as long as it does.

If he lands the job, both her husband and her son-in-law will have strong ties to oil companies.  For the financial well being of her daughter and grandchild it would behoove her to look out for the oil industries best interest.

My sentiments exactly.  Additionally, their son has joined the military at 19. While I think the military is a good choice for young people, the more education you have when you join the better the experience. It's not like they can't afford to send a child to college or technical school. Their other children have been on the campaign trail for the 6 weeks she has been running for VP. The issue is the Palin's just don't value education.

Just think what a role model Bristol will be, living in the white house, unmarried with a child.  All those young girls will want to emulate her.

Did someone say "family values"?  no, that's right.  Family values died in July.

I'm loving this.

Complain to Fox.

Complain to the AP and Alan Goldman.

In reality, this article is just as newsworthy as is any other story that focuses on family members of the four people nominated in this election.

That said, if you don't like it... skip it.

I understand that.  But why do you care?  It's along the lines of Lindsey Lohan getting a picture snapped with no panties?  God knows we've seen enough of that.  It is just a somewhat irrelevant topic.

Why should you not care? It tells us about Family Values and how the cons like to use it when it's in their favor. Ever noticed, how they've been a bit quiet on that front in the last couple of years what with all that homosexual affairs, extra-marital affairs, etc etc of the Republican leaders always in the news? Are you not concerned that Family Values are going down the drain? What would happen to this country if unwed teenagers went around getting pregnant and dropping out of school? Shame on you for comparing such an immensely important topic to a frivolous one as Lindsay Lohan.

Family values took a severe bi-partisan hit when women decided pursuing careers was more important than rearing their children. Forty years ago, my mother was always there for me and my brother, and as a result we excelled in public school and college, and found good jobs after graduation. I would not want to be a kid in a family today where both parents are working full-time.

I got to stay home with my last child and I can't tell you how much I enjoyed it. The problem is that in the 50's and 60's one person could make a living and support the family. That's no longer true. Of course, you have the people who choose to have it all. Work outside the home, have children and live the good life. It seems to me that living the good life is being able to stay home with your children and providing a stable home. Everyone has their opinion and it's what works for them.

The problem is that in the 50's and 60's one person could make a living and support the family. That's no longer true.

That is another unfortunate consequence of women entering the job market in droves. As the supply of labor increased, the demand did not keep pace, and with more people hungry for jobs employers found they could hire at lower pay.

(Just to be clear, I applaud women who contribute their talents in the workforce. My manager at my last job was a joy to work for, as she was bright, very competent, and quite amiable.)

It seems to me that living the good life is being able to stay home with your children and providing a stable home.

That is a heartwarming sentiment. Your children are fortunate to have you as their mother. For a child, there is no substitute for time spent with mom. That is what they love and need.

That is another unfortunate consequence of women entering the job market in droves. As the supply of labor increased, the demand did not keep pace, and with more people hungry for jobs employers found they could hire at lower pay.

This is a problem that is also seen in the education of women.  One of my cousins has a bachelor of petroleum engineering degree. Her husband has a degree in electrical engineering.  He is the breadwinner and she has chosen to stay home and raise their 3 children, only one of whom is school-age right now.  She says that she plans to enter the job market (she went straight from college to marriage & motherhood) after their youngest child enters school.  By that point she will be 9 years removed from college and will not have even worked part-time in her field.  Will any employer be interested in hiring someone who hasn't worked in the field and who graduated from college 9 years earlier?  Should she have pursued a less-specialized degree?  Although I certainly applaud the fact that she graduated summa cum laude and that she decided to stay home to raise her family I can't help but think the job market will not be a friendly one and she will be far behind someone applying for the same job who might have just graduated a few months prior with that same degree.

I think the unfortunate consequence of a male-dominated society is that men constrain themselves only to the workplace. If a woman stays home, she's a hero and a homemaker. If a man stays home, he's lazy and unemployed.

I don't see how family values were affected by women in the workplace. I had two working parents and my values are just fine. I can see how it might be more stressful for the parents.

To be clear, I want to stay home because like amdac, I believe that staying home with your children is (or... will be) a joy. I just don't see why if my husband wanted to stay home with the children while I went and worked, he couldn't. Men are perfectly capable of being 'caregivers' and primary disciplinarians as much as women are. If that's what they want to do, I believe they should be able to do it.

One of my friends was a stay-at-home dad for 4 years while his wife, a doctor, brought home the bacon.  His only gripe about that time in his life was that it was difficult to find adult male conversation.

One of my best friends is a stay at home Dad, as his wife is a PhD Molecular Biologist, and has greater earning power than him and his MBA. As far as I can tell, their daughter is not suffering from any developmental difficulties because the "wrong" parent is at home full time.

My applause for the both of those homemaking Dads doing what they think is best for them and their families!

Because God has made it so....so it shall be done!

iamright:

However, you not only read it, but commented. 

Well, it would have been none of our business, but Levi decided to make it our business by discussing it in an interview. Once you willingly relinquish your right to privacy, whatever you spill becomes chum for the masses to feed upon. Maybe if he'd finished high school, he'd have learned that.

Mars313

When we studied poetry in English class in high school, I never really "got" it. And I would never have appreciated the talent of this young man had you not examined his work and revealed it to be the gem that it is. The Palin family can take great pride in their future son-in-law. They just better not f**k with him.

;-}

Well, he IS a citizen of the largest welfare state in the country, Alaska. Ooops, that state isn't run by Democrats. You mean, the GOP is full of socialists too???? *gasp*

It is one of those double standard things, welfare good for Alaska but not big cities like Chicago,  Detroit, etc.   The Repubs play by two sets of standards, what they live by and what they want the rest of the world to live by.

How on earth do you manage to give Obama blame by association for Levi Johnston's character?

RE: Jack23

Damn, for half a minute, I thought you were talking about how Republicans dole out money to corporations and corrupt regimes around the world...without even the hint of accountability.

However, when you mentioned effort of any kind, I realized immediately that  it must have been people you were disparaging. You know, living human beings mostly trying to survive. They don't stand much of a chance against such a proven and greedy ideology.

Hey Jack the daughter is following in mommy's footsteps.  Palin was pregnant and unwed married Todd who is a high school dropout and his wife is now running for second highest job in the whole country don't blame OBAMA. GOP has endorsed this one all by themselves.

Damian..........Palin's daughter and Levi and this baby won't have to worry if health care is 'fixed' by either president........

Because the bill is taken care of by you, me and uncle Freddie.

Again though, this can work out. My Uncle's first child was born before he married my Aunt, and he dropped out to support them. His kids have done well, as have he and his wife, who are about to celebrate 50 years of marriage.

Of course, my understanding is that Grandad told my Uncle he had two choices: marry her and support the child, or die. Please note that this is the father's father imposing these conditions, not the mother's. Stand up to your responsibilities seemed to be the message he was sending. I also have no idea of Grandad's politics: it was not a topic he ever discussed, although he was raised around Grandview, Misssouri, near the Truman farm, so I have my suspicions.