Joe The Plumber's Union Endorses Barack Obama For President

News Type: Event — Seeded on Thu Oct 16, 2008 7:10 AM EDT

Article Source: ua.org

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On January 9, 2008, the United Association became the first International Union to endorse Senator Barack Obama as its candidate for the Democratic nomination for President of the United States. This endorsement was discussed with the General Executive Board and they concurred.

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Killfile

I, for one, had heard about enough about Joe the Plumber the first time McCain brought him up. Obama's response to Joe was reasoned and informative and McCain basically showed up as an incarnation of the right-wing blog-o-sphere with a old-man hair and a swolen gland.

All hat and no cattle as the saying goes.

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#1 - Thu Oct 16, 2008 7:22 AM EDT

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PAM-255739

I just like to add to the Joe the plumber debate. I'm happy for him, but FOR A SERVICE MEMBER WHO PUTS THEIR LIFE ON THE LINE EVERDAY, I DON'T MAKE CLOSE TO TO WHAT HE MAKES...And that says to me and should say to the country something is truely wrong with the tax code.

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#2 - Thu Oct 16, 2008 8:59 AM EDT

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Killfile

Personally I like the military platform of one Augustus Caesar who isn't running for office this year on account of being dead for about two millenia.

Augustus instituted these reforms in the Roman Army which were intended to avoid the sorts of civil wars that Pompy and Julius Caesar got involved in. Armies were paid through plunder in the days of the late Republic and this made them loyal to their commanders rather than the State.

So Augustus did away with that system and instituted a new one, but to keep people loyal (and this was brilliant) he basically promised anyone who served a full term in the army a lump payment - at the end of service - of 20 years salary... this in addition to what they normally made.

Now yes, this kind of sucks as far as survivor benefits go and whatnot, but the idea of "ok, thanks for serving your country, here's an enormous pile of money" is kind of cool. We shouldn't do it with actual cash mind you, but I really like the idea of being pretty much done or at least secure after serving in the military.

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#2.1 - Thu Oct 16, 2008 9:08 AM EDT

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Dennis P. McCann

Hah! Great title.

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3 votes

#3 - Thu Oct 16, 2008 9:14 AM EDT

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QACoach

Good find, KF!

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#4 - Thu Oct 16, 2008 10:33 AM EDT

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CCdesign

And what 'Joe's' background has to do with the question asked and finally honestly answered is........?

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#5 - Fri Oct 17, 2008 9:24 PM EDT

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Killfile

Joe's question was entirely hypothetical. That's what. His question and the expectations that come along with it imply that Obama would raise taxes on small mom-and-pop style operations like plumbers and mechanics.

Which is bull@!$%#.

For a small business to have more than 250,000 in taxable income is extraordinary and Obama was a gentleman in not calling Joe out on his estimates (which, for a small plumber's shop, are way out of the realm of sanity).

Will Obama raise taxes on those making more than 250,000 a year? Sure. Will those taxes help fund programs that will benefit the less fortunate? Sure. Is that wealth redistribution? Not en-masse, but sure, you could call it that.

Of course if Obama is Robin Hood in that sense, McCain is just Prince John -- wealth redistribution in the other direction. Robbing from the poor and giving to the rich is another form of wealth redistribution. Not socialism... corporate cronyism.

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#5.1 - Sat Oct 18, 2008 1:55 PM EDT

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