"America, We Have A Muslim President. This Is [A] Sin Against The Lord!"

Look, you can take away the homeless, and shelter them.  You can protect kidnap and rape victims, but don't you DARE try and take away my doggy style!  I'll get out and bust somebody's EYE open for that one...

*lmao*

Where the hell did that come from, anyway?

I've said it in another post and I'll repeat it here.  One is born with stupidity.  The clinical definition of "retarded" when I was in University was a measured IQ below 80.  One can't help that.  What's really a sin is IGNORANCE.  Ignorance is chosen behavior.  This self-righteous preacher chose to ignore all the evidence and published the incendiary message in the hopes that other ignorami would buy into it, thus justifying their hatred and contempt of others "in the name of the lord."  One wonders if they aren't really worshipping Moloch (a god who demands blood sacrifice).  They're almost certainly worshipping Mammon (the god of unrighteous greed).

If stupidity is a sin against the lord,  man, the Conservatives will be doing penance forever!

@Tom Joad...bust somebody's EYE open?!? OMFG you are a savage! Stupid should hurt. 

There's plenty of smart people in Kansas ... I'm going to KU medical.  The guy who invented basketball started the first basketball team in America, the Kansas Jayhawks.  There's a lot of Native Americans and hippies in Kansas ... there's some of the weirdest of the weirdest "tribes" you could call them of conversatives, too.  It's a weird state.  Some of these conversative tribal people would make for a great anthropological study.  Too bad they have access to internet and radio and television, though, lol.

Guys...chill!  Careem, from the other posts he's made, is from one of the Islamic countries, not an American (or at least not born and raised here).  He seems to be a dedicated and God-fearing man trying to live his faith and trying to share ideas with us in a language in which he is not completely familiar.  Let's cut him a little slack, OK.  For one, I welcome a dialogue with others, particularly if it can lead to greater understanding and appreciation...on BOTH sides!

I support Libertarian for truth here. Both in his belief that careem is well-intentioned, and in the call for a debate that allows for a rational understanding.

I will go ahead and state the obvious -- Conversations require tolerance if you are ever to hear the other point of view. They also require a certain level of acceptance if you actually intend to listen and understand that other point of view.

The time for anger about injustice is always now, but one always has a choice in how they express them self. If people cannot be civil, then partisanship tribal thinking rules the day.

IGNORANCE is NOT BLISS anymore!

Joseph700

I support Libertarian for truth here. Both in his belief that careem is well-intentioned, and in the call for a debate that allows for a rational understanding.

I will go ahead and state the obvious -- Conversations require tolerance if you are ever to hear the other point of view. They also require a certain level of acceptance if you actually intend to listen and understand that other point of view.

The time for anger about injustice is always now, but one always has a choice in how they express them self. If people cannot be civil, then partisanship tribal thinking rules the day.

As someone who has also learned English not as a first language, I agree with both of you, but Newsvine comments, not so good an idea, until you have a better understanding of English. A couple of misspelled or mistaken words can change the whole tone of a comment. Michael - Inuk

In Shari'a Law, if your father is a muslim, YOU are a muslim.

Silly me, I did not realise that the US political system and the Spirit One Christian Church were based on Shari'a law.

Archon: I don't like calling names but you are a foo, ignorant, unread, un-educated to the realities of the world (or maybe just period). Good Lord and I mean "MY" Good Lord, get a grip. The Sharifs may say so, but Gods law doesnt' and NEITHER DOES OURS!!!!!!! So therefore subjectively speaking, you believe the Koran and all of the other non-God religions? Doesn't that put you in the same basket with them instead of of the ONE GOD? Okay, I'm done with this site...for today. The pure idiocy of some of the poster's are making me crazy.

Wow, ARCHON-PRIME is lecturing us on ignorance.

 In fact, as Obama's half-sister, Maya Soetoro-Ng explained to Jodi Kantor of the New York Times: "My whole family was Muslim, and most of the people I knew were Muslim."

An Indonesian publication, the Banjarmasin Post reports a former classmate, Rony Amir, recalling that "All the relatives of Barry's father were very devout Muslims."

the Chicago Tribune confirms that Obama was "listed as a Muslim on the registration form for the Catholic school." A blogger who goes by "An American Expat in Southeast Asia" found that "Barack Hussein Obama was registered under the name ‘Barry Soetoro' serial number 203 and entered the Franciscan Asisi Primary School on 1 January 1968 and sat in class 1B. … Barry's religion was listed as Islam."

Los Angeles Times learned from Indonesians familiar with Obama when he lived in Jakarta that he "was registered by his family as a Muslim at both schools he attended." Haroon Siddiqui of the Toronto Star visited the Jakarta public school Obama attended and found that "Three of his teachers have said he was enrolled as a Muslim."

In his autobiography, Dreams of My Father, Obama relates how he got into trouble for making faces during Koranic studies, thereby revealing he was a Muslim, for Indonesian students in his day attended religious classes according to their faith. Indeed, Obama still retains knowledge from that class: Nicholas D. Kristof of the New York Times, reports that Obama "recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them [to Kristof] with a first-rate accent."

 Obama's half-sister recalled that the family attended the mosque "for big communal events."

Watson learned from childhood friends that "Obama sometimes went to Friday prayers at the local mosque." Barker found that "Obama occasionally followed his stepfather to the mosque for Friday prayers." One Indonesia friend, Zulfin Adi, states that Obama "was Muslim. He went to the mosque. I remember him wearing a sarong" (a garment associated with Muslims).

I don't like calling names but you are a foo, ignorant, unread, un-educated to the realities of the world

I think you LIKE to call people names.

you believe the Koran and all of the other non-God religions? Doesn't that put you in the same basket with them instead of of the ONE GOD?

So people that don't believe in YOUR God, like muslims, don't believe in God?

CLASSIC.

It is still an over generalization.  Going to Catholic School does not make you a Catholic.

Stupidity is a sin against the Lord.

Actually, it's not. It is, however, one of the seven deadly sins in of Anton LaVey's Satanic Bible.

The logic of ACORN-PRIME’s argument is that if you happened to be standing in a bank while it is being robbed and you don’t stop the robbery, then you must be one of the perpetrators of the crime even if you happened to be only 5 years old.

Archon-Prime, your bigotry and ignorance are shameful.

I attended Baptist church in my youth -- I am not a Baptist.

I attended Catholic church on and off for years -- I am not a Catholic.

I celebrate Christian holidays, and take inspiration from Christ consciousness -- but thanks to people like you, I am not a Christian.

All that is beside the point.  This is a free nation, and the President-elect's religion is neither a qualification for office, nor an indication of his ability to govern.  For my part, I'd elect a moderate Muslim over a fundamentalist Christian every time.

Going to Catholic School does not make you a Catholic.

Being raised in a Catholic family makes you a Catholic UNTIL you become something else.

Obama was a Muslim until he became something else. Let's READ to Obama's own words:

Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr(former muslim). at Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago.

"He introduced me to someone named Jesus Christ," said Obama. "I learned that my sins could be redeemed. I learned that those things I was too weak to accomplish myself, He would accomplish with me if I placed my trust in Him. And in time, I came to see faith as more than just a comfort to the weary or a hedge against death, but rather as an active, palpable agent in the world and in my own life.

"It was because of these newfound understandings that I was finally able to walk down the aisle.

------------------------------

Odd a Chrisitan in his 20s learning the basic tenets of Christianity.

Archon-Prime, your bigotry and ignorance are shameful.

I've posted CITABLE FACTS.

You've contributed A PERSONAL ATTACK rather than provide a cogent argument to dispute those facts.

Now tell us more about bigotry and ignorance.

but thanks to people like you, I am not a Christian.

You don't know people like me. You don't even know me.

So please, don't blame me for your lack of faith.

Tom Joad,

Luv you man, too funny!!!!

Check out the puppy cam sometime, they are too cute.

Especially when they try the doggy style

Being raised in a Catholic family makes you a Catholic UNTIL you become something else.

Nonsense. I was baptised Catholic, attended a Catholic university and attended mass in the tomb of St. Peter.

Am I Catholic? No.

A-P

That is like saying everyone in Spain must be from Puerto Rico or Cuba since they all speak Spanish. 

Archo-Prime and if Barack Obama is Muslim who the f!@#$ cares!

If stupidity is a sin against the lord,  man, the Conservatives will be doing penance forever!

Conservative = stupid to you?

There are many brilliant conservatives, just as there are many stupid liberals. Intelligence is not the issue.

About Careem's comment. I'm not sure that he meant to troll, nor that it was unintelligable- I think he might have been trying to make a point that he felt to be a vaild one- if so, his english is really, really bad though:

 the americans are gifted to have a muslim president , if he enforce a law prohibiting dog style ( sex ) living of it citizen in the street, kidnapping and raping ( daily in thousands ).

Now I could be soooo wrong but if Libertarian for Truth is correct I think Careem was trying to say:

"The Americans (would be) gifted to have a Muslim president. He would enforce laws against doggie style sex, (help) all of the (homeless) citizens out on the street, and (prevent the) kidnapping and raping of thousands (that happens) every the day."

Or, at least, something to that effect. Not entirely sure though. If that was what he was trying to say, well, then, there it is. (Just remember that it's not my opinion but what I think he was trying to say).

Thanks, you guys!  I went back and searched Careem's other comments.  While I can't find it in myself to believe in Sharia Law, I don't think the man was trying to be offensive.  If one compares the AIDS rate in the sub-saharan regions of Africa, some of those countries have infection of 25-35% of the population.  In Algeria, Tunisia or Libya the rate is substantially below 1%, primarily due to Islamic restrictions on sexual behavior.  Their law seems to us to be highly restrictive, since we're comfortable with substantially more liberal social behaviors.  The offense, I'm certain, is a culture clash for the most part...and poor command of English.

Actually, Tyler, chances are neither of us are quite on the money when it comes to the translation. I think Libertarian's right though, it's mostly culture clash and bad English mixed in there too. To be honest, the only reason why I looked back at it was because the first time I thought it almost seemed to read quite a bit like some of the ESL students I work with so, when I read Libertarian's post, I decided to look at it again as if it were.

Anyway, looked at in that light, his mentioning of the homeless, raping and robbery combined with the prohibiting of a sexual position told me that it had to be some sort of religious/cultural laws that he was pointing out and/or relying on as either a part of his point or the reason for it.

But again, his exact meaning is probably going to be beyond us for a while until he gets a bit better. Oh well, English is a tough language- heck, half of those of us that speak it as natives have trouble passing the classes....:)

when the truth is exposed , it prick and hurt the hearts , also never accept in the light of good intention.Its the normal  behaviour of westerners for street sex and rape.compare to easterners ,thats why my comment is removed. why do you want to hide the true facts? dont you know , because of bush's lies the state of US and the rest of the world today.

careem,

thats why my comment is removed. why do you want to hide the true facts?

No. Your comment was removed because we could not understand it. Your bad English made your comment like an insult. Some tried to understand it. Read the posts: #2.31, #2.30, #2.29, #2.28.

normal  behaviour of westerners for street sex and rape.compare to easterners

Street sex is NOT normal here in America. Why do you think this? Rape is not normal either. Rape is bad, everyone knows this. There is more rape here then in the east. This is true. But Rape is still bad and not normal. Where in America have you gone, that you would think this?

careem

when the truth is exposed , it prick and hurt the hearts , also never accept in the light of good intention.Its the normal  behaviour of westerners for street sex and rape.compare to easterners ,thats why my comment is removed. why do you want to hide the true facts? dont you know , because of bush's lies the state of US and the rest of the world today.

Careem, I think I finally figured out your comment. I believe your heart is good, but your English is very poor. Please do not use blogs to learn English, your comments are very hard to understand, and people think your comments are negative, when they are really positive. English is a HARD language to learn, I know first hand, but too many words can leave a bad impression, when clearly that is not what you had in mind. Welcome to America, Michael

Its the normal  behaviour of westerners for street sex and rape.compare to easterners

Rape and street sex is illegal in our country and is not at all normal behavior. 

There is more rape here then in the east. This is true.

How do you know this is true?  I have a feeling that many more rapes go unreported in the eastern countries.  Recently a rape victim was stoned to death in Somalia for having been raped.  And this is far from the first time we've heard stories like this one in the past few years even.  I can understand why women in that part of the world might decide it's not a good idea to report it.  Maybe your statement should read 'There is more rape reported here than in the east.

And careem, I would like to invite you to visit our country so that you can see with your own eyes what our culture is like and not depend on someone else's distorted views of how we live over here.  Then you could go back to your country and tell others the truth as you've seen for yourself.  Maybe people from that part of the world wouldn't be so hostile to us if they weren't being fed lies about our culture.  Of course, it's up to you whether or not to believe the lie.

Possibly, but I can only go with the numbers that we have. The US has more reported cases.

i wish the readers should know though street sex and rape are illegal ,  there are reported cases to show that rape take place every miniute in whole of america without no boddy's knowledge. In the east the culture never allws it to happen. There may be isolated cases .

Proof?

I would rather be on the left and called crazy than to be on the right an remove all doubt! Am  I right Elaine? ....sorry left?

Guilt,Fear Mass Insanity! Three cheers for Christianity!

Somebody will......... remove it!

Sounds like a call for VANDALISM.

Arm 2 photon torpedoes, full yield..plot course,lock course into computers,  FIRE!

Mr Sulu is that you?

I am a Christian JOSEPH.  but I don't subscribe to "judging" but, in your case......... and someone will remove it.... I did not say how.  Might be the next sign poster, smart aleck! 

AND FOR ARCHON-PRIME... don't you all recognize his rants by now on almost every seed he visits?  And FYI, I did not call for vandalism.  You do enough of that with every post you make.  You vandalize the sanity and civility of fellow viners. 

Elaine I misjudged you. the photon torpedo thing was humor! I'll bet somebody has already thrown a few rocks at it! For future reference when I use Star Trek language I'm doing it in a humorous context. Maybe this jerk will lose his church and there will be a flea market or a huge strip bar to replace it. And further more these kind of pathologically religious people preach hate and violence and they and we should not be surprised or even upset when it happens. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.

No Archon Prime I'm a Klingon there were no Klingons on StarFleet vessels for at least 75 years!

Great Joseph. Now you have to bring Newtonian Law into the argument? What is this country coming to.

Can't you be as narrowminded and slack-jawed as the rest of us?

*giggle*

Oh Elaine as far as you being a christian....you have my sincere condolences.

But it hurts when I do that Lady Saidy! And to Elaine..As for Archon Prime and his (rantings) well darling you shouldn't get stoned and throw glass at houses, you've got some rants in your pants like A.Prime and myself included. It feels some what cathartic to let it all hang out.

In my wildest thoughts when I entered here I never thought there would be anybody who would be stupid enough to back this crazy pastor. I was wrong

I am not referencing your comment Lemmy

It is because of these type of christians, that many have distanced themselves from religion.

ladyblue I'm a recovering Catholic and I was driven from the church by it's growing list of hated people.

Yep religion will be the downfall of the world at the rate we are going..... christians, muslims, all a plague !! Brainwashing hypocites.. is more like it! Closed minded conservatives!

Like Ive always said, "organized religion is the root of all evil"....so much better to just believe....

Sin is in the heart and it happens inside and outside of religion. As does crazy people.

I find it funny how people condemn organized religion saying all it does is classify and divide, then turn and classify and divide those that are a part of it. Who is any better then?

Hypocrisy. Just like Wichita, Kansas preacher.    ; )

"ladyblue I'm a recovering Catholic and I was driven from the church by it's growing list of hated people."

I was driven out because of the growing list of pedophile priests. I refused to put another dime in the collection plate to go toward their legal defense. I am willing to bet that the preacher who put up that sign has more than a few skeletons in his closet. Those kind are usually the ones who cast judgment on others.

christians, muslims, all a plague !!

"A plague on BOTH your houses..."

*big smile*

Ignorance and ugly Americans once again rearing their head.  First, he's not Muslim.  And if he was, so what!  There are many religions in the world, not just one.  Not all Muslims are terrorists, and not all christians are ignorant.

I'm a recovering Southern Baptist. I've come a long way in this one lifetime. I suppose this "holy" man is free to spew his poison. I don't put much stock in the bible anymore, but I'd say this is a classic case of judge not, lest ye be judged.

On the positive side, he makes a very good case for separation of church and state.

The problem with hyoocrisy is that you can never call any oneout on what they are doing because you then become the hyporcrite .........what a connundrum

You can call them out when you arent christian.. or muslim or anything else and you are a complete 3rd party and all you see is it destroying our world and killing innocents all in the name of some god.. what are we in the stone age... we are so insecure in ourselves not being able to explain things we have to make up a god to explain it..Ever think that we are just not intelligent enough as a species to understand everything at this point.. That is too hard for some to swallow, hence your religious fanatics who have to explain everything. The sun comes up everyday maybe we should worship the sun god...lol. We shouldnt have sex at such a young age.. but a couple hundred years ago people were married at age 11 or 12.. did you ever think the reason girls get their period at that age signifies they are meant to be reproducing... DUH...!! But we have made that wrong because we deem it is too young.. But God intended it since he made them that way biological.. That is hypocracy at its best... If you truly want to listen to god word then think about some of our natural things we try to subdue with rules and laws...pretty ironic...

ladyblue999

It is because of these type of christians, that many have distanced themselves from religion.

Just like the Republicans distanced themselves from the wackos and voted for Obama.

klaatu_berada_necto

I'm a recovering Southern Baptist. I've come a long way in this one lifetime. I suppose this "holy" man is free to spew his poison. I don't put much stock in the bible anymore, but I'd say this is a classic case of judge not, lest ye be judged.

On the positive side, he makes a very good case for separation of church and state.

Also a classic example of the separation of religious wackos and intelligence.

Thanks for the sermon, Robert, maybe you should start a religion, lol.

Not all Muslims are terrorists, and not all christians are ignorant.

One could assert that farther. Only a few Muslims are terrorists, though by definition, they cease to be Muslim when they engage in violence against innocents.

Not all Christians are ignorant stands as written.

However, I am obliged to also say that in issues of faith, the abject rejection of faith based moral arguments can also be an ignorant position to take. It discounts the validity of the human condition. People often tend to believe what they can see, even in matters of faith.

Knowing is harder than believing. It requires patience and effort.

Rarddogg, hypocrisy most certainly can be "called out" just as it was by Jesus Christ and scores of other prophets in Jerusalem...and look what happened to them. They were made outcasts, stoned to death and crucified in great numbers. I wonder if this pastor would be as willing to proclaim his misguided message if it required such risk? He's hiding behind his big blue sign, and his 'church without walls' certainly seems to be erecting a wall of ignorance around itself.

Those who believe...are easy to deceive!

    Good news is the younger ones are not listening anymore. There are several articles about the move away from these goofy churches who hide behind the name of religion to vent their obvious inner feelings.

Kansans should note that real thinking people do not blame Kansas for this nut cases actions. His congrgation should buy him a computer.

Sharia's Law? Now if this was Iran that may apply but we have freedom to choose your religion here in the US. There are millions of Muslims in this country and this is an afront to those American citizens also.

Ironically, I'll bet that the parishioners of this church were among the many who had problems with Reverend Wright!

Not necessarily in that order.

.....and not necessarily limited to those two selections.

The preacher man is probably screwing his congregation and giving them milk and cookies....why is it that many sexually deprived and ANGRY men hide behind their religion

LMAO -- Yes, they can start running now if they know what is good for them.

Kool-Aid is an appropriate metaphor for much that deals with shaping perception. In small infrequent doses it is not harmful. It looks pretty, and tastes good.

It is only later that the consumer discovers they have recieved no real nutrition and maybe will get holes in their teeth for the bargain. Hey, if one drinks enough sugar in sufficient quantities, one may even get diabetes. So why would anyone want even metaphorical diabetes? And knowing that is a possibility, why drink the Kool-Aid in the first place?

And yet, some peope do. Especialy children. Kool-Aid offers a simple pleasure without the awareness of complications. Or in laymans terms, it is yummy.

I Believe he was referring to the Jones town followers who drank Kool Aid Laced with poison. 30 Years ago Today as a matter of Fact.

Yeah, you're right MistyMack, I was referring to Jonestown.

But great metaphor Joseph. There are different interpretations for a lot of things. Yours is one that is food for thought. Thanks.

snb,

Funny you should mention Jamestown, the story of that tragedy was recently on TV.  I was too young at the time to realize what was going on, but read a book about Jim Jones later on.  It is sad, his son said they had some idea that this would get bad but never dreamed he was dark enough inside to take out the babies and children.  Really, really sad.

preachers have influence..
encase you didn't notice most "terror" is fueled by religion.
Someone will justify trying to attakc the president or perhaps and obama supporter by doing gods work.

At one point in my life, I interpreted the following quote as a message of hope:

Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has.

-- Margaret Meade ()

I thought that reason would outlast any irrational ideological movements. But then I grew up. More recently I realized this same tendency to organize can cut both ways. Beware the so-called "crazies," for they are determined, and they are more likely to act on their determinations.

The only rational choice left is to reach out and understand those who think differently. To label them and ostracize them will only provoke them to continue making their plans in secret.

can't reach the http above... what did she say?

basically a first hand account it's pretty long.
the pastor is sure he is a Muslim and also gets a lot of calls on the sign, more than any other sign he has put out there.
he lists the usual talking points.
he is really an arab.. when to a muslim school.. showed that picture of him in african garb. etc
same nonsense from the election,d different troll spewing it.

Isn't there another church in town that carries a banner and call their church Hate America Church?Something like that and its ran by a old man and his entire family?They step and walk all over on the American Flag,hang the flag upside down and what ever evil things they do to our Flag?They also protest at Military funerals which forced George W Bush to sign a bill of no protesting at any Military funerals.My friend from that area said that its really ignorant and bad cause they yell and hold these disgusting signs disturbing the community.That a motorcycle gang revved up their bikes to drown them out for one of our fallen heroes.

There's a documentary about this church and I found it very disturbing with them saying God hates America,Military are fags,you deserve what you get and so on.On top of that they have children brainwashed by this church cult walking around with signs,dishonoring the flag,saying nasty things they were taught.Talk about being Un-Anti-American that group there sure is.

Bebe...that guy is named Phelps and his "church" is in Topeka.  One of the baddest eggs in the evangelical basket.  Pickets funerals of dead soldiers with signs that suggest that the soldier died because "God hates Fags."  Bona fide nut job!

My daughter took a cross country road trip a few years ago and was shocked to see in the Bible Belt that there were several cars with bumper stickers proudly proclaiming that they were members of the KKK!

Some areas of the U.S.A. are living decades behind the rest.

Hey CT - just look at the 2008 electoral map. Everthing east of the Mississippi River shows that we are still fighting the Civil War. I know...I was born and raised in Tennessee. It seems that the more churches a city has, the more nutjobs we attract.

Kind of spooky when you think about it.

It's no big secret the red state/blue state thing.

What is really funny, I think it is the same group.

What do you mean, "reverse racist?"  Racism is all the same, no matter what group is doing it. 

Libertarian: You're right, racism is and will unfortunatly continue to be a world wide problem

Kaiji: I know what you mean by that. I kept wondering all throughout the elections why Hannity kept getting away with hitting the Rev. Wright thing home on up through election day and none of his legions of fans ever got hip to the fact that for all of Hannity's railings against Obama staying in that church for 20 years and asking over and over again why didn't he leave Rev Wright's church sooner, no one ever seemed to notice that Hannity stayed a "proud Irish Catholic" even when it was apparant that said church had and was continuing to cover up the pedophile priest scandals.

During the lection they posted that he was a muslim. Then they posted that his wife's uncle was a rabbi. No wonder these kooks lost.

Right, and though Obama is technically a Boomer, his experience is more of that of an early GenX'er. His father only saw him what was it, 2 times? Not the "norm" of the time. I was born 12 years after Obama and had many, many friends who have no recollection of one of their parents. Though I and my closest friends reach our early teen years with both parents married, none of us made it to adulthood that way and that caused some amount of curiosity in quite a few people who had a parent that wasn't part of their life after the divorce, naturally.

Obama's presence as our next President and the large amount of culture shock that these types of people shows how fast things have changed in our world in such a short amount of time.

On the other hand I find it really strange that so many people are as surprised by it as much as they are. Case in point, I finished school with a GED 5 months before by high school class did, and we had a black student council president. That was 1992 in Alabama. But then the classes of 1990 and 1991 also had black SC presidents as well. At the time most black people mainly lived in less than a quarter of the city, not a quarter of the population but in one part of the city separte from the rest of town, a throwback to the old Jim Crow days for sure so it wasn't one of those things where we were in an area that had a black majority so hopefully we're finally going to get away from insane culture and heavy race issues in politics and both black and white can move forward together, finally.

I hope so too,but as you were talking about.IN allot of American cities back then,African Americans was ,thanks to the urban redevelopment act ?,was moved to "one"area of town in some believe that was a government way to disfranchise and separate the races from each other therefore causing divisions.A sad part of history and a major setback.

Sounds funny Billbill..but you know the series of books that are all called "____— for Dummies"? Or  "The Complete Idiots Guide to____?" Go get them if you want to learn the VERY basics of Islam...like who Muhammad is and where the different sects came from ...you know Shia, Sunni.....interesting to read the basics without the spin and the "evil" attached...

Well thank you for the advice maybe we both go purchase that book and share our thoughts with one another.I am sorry if something I said didn't have that much input and I don't mind to be corrected if I have misstated something,sometimes when I write I get so far ahead of myself that I miss some points.I have for most through personal relationships and books that I have read over the years,educated myself.I did attend college to study business and have become emotional to certain causes having a interracial relationship and living in the south.My only intention is to speak on what I feel a conviction for,that I want apologize for.When you live in a area that some times people drive by cowardly and yell racial negative,spiteful words,it builds up and then you seek answers to how you can make a change.Now if you think this sound ignorant to you,well I will always be in the process of growing and maturing and learning for probably for the rest of my life.But I have found out the path of leaders who teach peaceful resolution speak more to me.Although I do have a interest to learn about the Muslim religion because I feel we all should see and understand their views before we judge anyone.Please JustLynn if you have anymore advice to give please pass it along,its so hard to find someone who will take time to give you advice to brush up on something,THANKS.

Ah ty you posted what I was asking about,that group is a total Green Day Basket Case.

MistyMack

I went to this site and "Ain't It The Truth"  that is the main reason Obama got elected.

AMEN BB

Thank you, I can't believe these people.  OMG 57 states!  Idiot! 

Oh come on, Misty.  I hope you are not suggesting that all Obama supporters are that dumb.  I've seen this before as well.  I like the fact that they suggest that they chose 12 of the SMARTEST people they could find to be interviewed.   Some of the people who voted for Obama are smart, well-educated, and make a decent living (myself included).   Some, not all, of McCain supporters are dumb, poorly educated, and just poor.   There's smart and dumb on both sides.  I do, however, think the McCain campaign and it's supporters were willing to get themselves dirty a lot more often than the Obama side was.  The link you showed is a perfect example.

Not suggesting ANYONE is dumb just saying they who voted for him did not even realize half of what they were voting for. Seems they just voted because the Man was a Good Speaker and full of Promises, I will sit back and wait without holding my Breath to the fact most people do not even consider the issues that are at Hand, Like this could be our last days on Earth according to Prophecy in the Word of God.

BTW If it is, and Barrack turns out to be the Anti Christ I'm Proud I will NOT  take His MARK and will live in Faith believing My God Shall Prevail.

Misty Mack- Amen. 

What ever happened to the "separation of church and state"?

Absolutely........take away their tax exempt status!!! 

If Americans could put that on an agenda for a vote, I would guesstimate that it would pass in a heartbeat!!!   Any word read or spoken regarding a national political issue or candidate from a church or church official should take away their tax exempt status.  No warnings, no nothing, just do it!!!

Most Americans are plain tired of the lies and excuses, the racism and hatred that comes from some churches.   They are the ones who need to be stopped in the name of God!!  This is not God's word; God loves ALL people!! 

Would this apply to the Mormons and their pro-Prep 8 preaching, contributing church money and telling people to contribute because it's the position of the Mormon Church?  I realize it would never happen, but is it the same thing?

I agree that ANY religious institution that engages in any discourse of a subject not having to do with religion should immediately lose their tax exempt status.