Wise Conservatives Might Want To Stop Calling Sotomayor A Racist

Clarification:

She made a remark that is loosely tied to her ethnicity.

Referring to one's own ethnicity or that of others does not make that remark 'racist'.

If that were true, then your own government could be thusly tagged, since 'race' is one of the defining categories of the decennial US census.

TO is right. And, Dave, her remark did not just "loosely tie" to her ethnicity. It declared her ethnicity/experiences as inherently superior to another's.

TO yeah.. thats called double standards and being a hypocrite. Shocking.....

In addition two the double standard on the statement she made concerning race, what's equally hypocritical is how the MSM is falling all over themselves talking about her life story (which I agree is inspiring).

There was no mention of this for Clarence Thomas, Alberto Gonzales or Migel Estrada, who had equally inspiring life stories during their conformation hearings or in Estrada's case, when he was being considered...instead they were savaged & marginalized by the left and the MSM

Since you were paying attention, can you provide some examples of the MSM promoting the life story of Thomas?

She said her experiences affect her judgement. It's common sense. Everyone is affcted by there experience. To pretend other wise is foolish.

She goes on to say, if you read the whole statement, that it is her job to "check" that tendency. It is exactly what you would expect any good judge to say about their own personnel bias, that you have to set it aside.

The only reason she made these comments is becuase she was on a panel as a Latino Female Judge. Are white Male judges ever asked to explain how growing up white and male affects their judgement?

Of course, if a Conservative made a racist joke, he'd definitely be a racist.

That's because bigots tend to be conservatives . Not all conservatives are bigots, but you can bet most bigots are conservative.

KGMO,good strong point there as shown through out history there's been many racist Caucasian judges of the past against minorities and still is to this day.

So how can Newt the Puke-who has a gay sister and is against gay rights,Rush Limpdick call a Puerto Rican woman judge a racist?When they're doing it themselves?Yeah,I called them names but doesn't make me a racist,no I just like picking on stupid ignorant people,lol..

Minorities struggled against the White Man through out history of which most refuse to see and still exist but also they are finally seeing what's it like to be discriminated against because of ones creed.

We can't forget a rich white man of the past consider a poor white man part of the minorty groups were discriminated against also and still is today.

History is there,shows it and it's still existing in the 21st century against every man,woman of all creeds.

I'm a full blooded mutt Puerto Rican,born hard of hearing,legally blind in left eye,a lesbian and disabled.I got everything against me but it doesn't have to be cause I won't let it happen and I won't put blame on anyone.It's a waste of time and I continue to live a normal life everyday the best that I can.I let no one stop me from achieving my goals in life,regardless of the people and problems I faced cause I stand tall and strong against it all.

I spread the peace and love to you all,cause I Imagine like John Lennon..Have a safe,fun weekend =)

There was no mention of this for Clarence Thomas

Yes there was and if you missed it, it was because you weren't paying attention.

Killfile- you seem to be MIA, anything on the MSM slobbering over the Clarence Thomas life story, as the have for Sotomayor?

you can bet most bigots are conservative.

You'd lose, you're bigoted statement is proof enough of the NEO-LIBERAL HATRED.

I have the facts to back my claim:

KKK=conservatives

Aryan nation=right wing conservatives.

List a bigoted organization and you can bet they are right wingers

How about the NAACP, are they right wingers?

How about the black panthers?

The NAACP is not a bigoted organization.

What does NAACP stand for? If that is not bigoted I don't know what is.

The NAACP stands for advancing the rights of African Americans in the US. Whats bigoted about wanting equal rights?

Bull@!$%# jdoyle it is National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, to me that sounds bigoted. That does not say we want equality it says we are for us and only us. I also noticed the fact that you did not mention the black panthers.

NAACP stands for National Association for the Advancement of Colored People.

here's some more "bigoted" organizations for your list:

NOW stands for the National Association for Women
UFW stands for United Farm Workers (all bigoted Mexicans, to be sure)
CSA stands for the Chinese Students Association
HVA stands for the Harvard Vietnamese Association (HVA)
DANK is the German-American National Congress
IACI, the Irish American Cultural Institute, is a hotbed of your bigotry no doubt

and of course.....

KKK stands for the Klyklos Clan

Sleep well tonight, Moshdagoat. They are all out to get you!

There should not be organisations that specifically cater to any one nationality, unless they don't mind being considered prejudiced.

Bull@!$%# jdoyle it is National Association for the Advancement of Colored People

They are for equal rights: do you have a problem with that?

jdoyle organizations that are race specific are guilty of conspiring to further their own kind, how much more do I need to say. Hitler had his own little group to further his own kind look what became of that.

jdoyle organizations that are race specific are guilty of conspiring to further their own kind

Since when is wanting equal rights bigoted? Hilter didnt want equal rights he wanted Aryan power.

Since when is wanting equal rights bigoted?

Who in the hell doesn't have equal rights? If you cant see how race based organizations divide people and create animosity where there should be none I dont know what the hell to tell you.

List a bigoted organization and you can bet they are right wingers

How about the black panthers?

I see we are still dodging this. Lets not forget their voter intimidation, and not being charged courtesy of Obama.

Things that make you go hmm.

Killfile if you are referring to #1.9. My problem is the emphasis on what race people are when elected or appointed. Instead of Sotomayor the first latina supreme court justice, Obama the first black man to be president. How about just leaving the whole race thing out. Those were the two I was referring to.

It would be a beautiful thing if these issues were sidelined, but it does seem as if they are perpetuated intentionally by the media.

Who in the hell doesn't have equal rights?

In the US for centuries African Americans were treated as nonhuman and later as second class citizens. They were unable to voted and systemically murdered. That is why the NAACP was formed as well as the Black Panthers.

You might want to study US history before making foolish comments.

Jdoyle I am talking about right now.

Things are better but there are still problems that need to be addressed.

I am still waiting to hear your rational for calling the NAACP racist..This should be good LOL

I am still waiting to hear your rational for calling the NAACP racist..

I already have

organizations that are race specific are guilty of conspiring to further their own kind

And only their kind.

And I am still waiting to hear how the black panthers are right wing.

Black Panthers are anarchists.

The NAACP doesn't spread hate like the KKK or Aryan Nation does.

Just because you don't like the NAACP does not mean they are racist.

Black Panthers are anarchists.

And a hate group.

The NAACP doesn't spread hate like the KKK or Aryan Nation does.

Differing tactics do not dictate the nature of their purpose. They all are playing their role in maintaining racial tensions.

They all are playing their role in maintaining racial tensions.

No the NAACP doesn't.

Mosha, please study history before you make such uninformed comments about organizations of which you apparently know nothing. The NAACP focused on education, voting and hard work. They wanted only the equality they deserved. Silly little things like equal pay for equal work, equal access to unimportant things like ballot boxes and legal representation. The same with NOW and other organizations that got their start in the 50's and 60's. Back then you were only "equal" if you were white and male. The world has come a long way, but apparently, not far enough.

No one is disputing that there have been inequalities in the past. At this point race based organizations are doing nothing but creating a situation where people are dividing into their own groups according to race.

Lets see some rell proof of your comment about NAACP:

They all are playing their role in maintaining racial tensions.

Here are some examples

Messing with nascar

Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson even thinks their a hate group.

Whether she IS a racist or not, I have no idea, nor, I think, does anyone else ranting about her statement. It's the quote itself which is the problem...

I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn't lived that life

"Different" conclusion, sure. "Better" says racism.

"Different" conclusion, sure. "Better" says racism.

So does her membership in an organization called "The Race". I wonder if the 4 votes above realized my comment was sarcastic.

probably, your race baiting is pretty transparent.

Race baiting... LMAO. Disagreement is hate to "progressive thinkers". Welcome to the New World Order. Great days are ahead!

When you say it's "bad" for someone "representing" La Raza to be on the supreme court, I don't think we have a serious disagreement because there is either a deliberate inaccuracy in your statement combined with a slur on a group who's mission it is to improve the quality of life for Americans, or you are ignorant of what it is La Raza does.

I know what they do and I know what they say. I am sure they do some good things, but in some of their policies, they place the rights of illegal immigrant Latinos (a race) above the laws of the United States, essentially arguing that we are wrong to enforce our laws against latinos. They want to stop immigration raids on Latinos (a race). They want to issue Drivers's licenses to latinos (a race) who enter the country illegally. Those are facts. In addition the organization is called "THE RACE"... not "A Race"... not "One of many great races"... "THE RACE". The name itself suggest superiority or does that apply only to white people? But I suppose if I start a group for white males called THE RACE, devoted to only helping white people, you won't have any problem with it... right?

In what respect are white people in need of parity? Are white people being discriminated against somewhere? It's not a zero sum game. Polices that benefit a race of people that could use a leg up in American society do not come at the expense or another race.

Most of the people in positions of power are Caucasian. Historically people of color have been discriminated against by whites in positions of power. You want a group that's dedicated solely to the advancement of white people? How about America up until about, I don't know, 1980?

In what respect are white people in need of parity? Are white people being discriminated against somewhere?

Yes, white people are discriminated against in the very fact that white people can't have an organization called "THE RACE", without being labeled racist and virtually any other group can. They are discriminated against when their promotions are denied because others of a different race failed to pass a promotion exam. But that is the double-standard doublespeak that is now packaged as "progressive thinking"... organized and sanctioned hypocrisy defended by those who refuse to acknowledge it even as it stares them right in the face... Welcome to the New World Order. Great days are ahead!

Bingo.

But couple that with her judicial ruling that whites and hispanic firefighters who passed a test for promotion COULD NOT BE PROMOTED, because no blacks passed the test

Whether born from experience or inherent physiological or cultural differences... our gender and national origins may and will make a difference in our judging.

The tests were reviewed by a "civil rights board" and found to be unbiased. How far can we lower out standards as a society to force equality?

Tests are designed to show mastery of a particular subject. One of biggest slides on this slippery slope was the legally-enforced fallacy that tests are biased against minorities. If all students (youths or adults) are presented with the same information, then it is completely fair to use tests to see how well those students have mastered that information.

The tests were reviewed by a "civil rights board" and found to be unbiased. How far can we lower out standards as a society to force equality?

Apparently farther than we have so far.

you can only be a racist or bigot if your white.

Nothing bigoted about that statement.

The first two paragraphs of the article on Thomas

During his Senate confirmation hearings for the appellate judgeship, Judge Thomas was criticized by civil rights groups as being lax in his job at the equal employment commission in enforcing bias laws to protect the elderly and minorities. In a 1987 article for The Yale Law and Policy Review, he referred to affirmative action as "social engineering."

Today two Democratic Senators, Alan Cranston of California and Howard M. Metzenbaum of Ohio, threatened to investigate Judge Thomas's record on abortion, which is vague, and not let him off so easily on this subject as was the case with David H. Souter in his confirmation hearing.

And the first two paragraphs of Sotomayor's

WASHINGTON — President Obama announced Tuesday that he would nominate Sonia Sotomayor, a federal appeals judge in New York, to the Supreme Court,choosing a daughter of Puerto Rican parents who was raised in a Bronx public housing project to become the nation’s first Hispanic justice.

In making his first pick for the court, Mr. Obama emphasized Judge Sotomayor’s “extraordinary journey” from modest beginnings to the Ivy League and now the pinnacle of the judicial system. Casting her as the embodiment of the American dream, he touched off a confirmation battle that he hopes to wage over biography more than ideology.

Quite a comparison, your right...the NYT is just falling over Thomas. I'd say I was paying attention and you weren't, thanks for proving my point.

There was no mention of this for Clarence Thomas

Yes there was and if you missed it, it was because you weren't paying attention.