
Rep. Todd Akin of Missouri today led a crowd of Teabaggers in front of the Capitol in a rousing recitation of the Pledge of Allegiance. He said it "drives liberals crazy" when people say the Pledge. Well, our skin doesn't burn or anything when you say it aloud, Rep. Akin, but it does drive us crazy when somebody gets all smug about owning the Pledge of Allegiance and then he can't @!$%#ing say it without screwing it up:
I often wonder if political attacks don't reveal more about the attacker than the attacked. In this case, I think they obviously did.
I know Canadians who can recite the PoA but this joker stumbled? Wow, way to go Real America, you're truly more patriotic, just not as good with things like memorization.
the pledge of allegiance is a socialist invention & it's major modifications were made by FDR.
why are teabaggers so desperate to involve themselves in an exercise in socialist indoctrination & subservience to the all mighty state?
lastly, our govt has proven that the oath is less than meaningless, all the US born japanese who recited this every day went to the same camps as their japan born relatives who didn't.
No surprise that he would leave out the word "indivisible" since the radical right is using every scare tactic it can find to keep this nation divided.
Personally, as a liberal, I love saying the Pledge. It doesn't drive me crazy. Though I do leave out the "under god" part that was only added under Ike as a PR stunt in the ol' red-scare days.
I don't even know what to say anymore about people like this. I'm almost too burned out to try.
Ok I'll try.
This guy needs to write for Sarah Palin. Any attempt by her to become president of the United States is going to go down in flames. She might as well impart a little humor into her campaign when at all possible. I'd watch.
I simply don't say it often. Especially if I've been in a number of meetings where it was recited that day. Mostly folks don't notice. They seem to notice more if my loud voice suddenly doesn't say the "under god". I figure, I only had to say "I do" once for every marriage, why should I have to pledge loyalty to a piece of fabric every day . . .and, besides, with marriage three down the tubes I don't have a good track record for promises anyway. :D
Funniest story, in retrospect I was pissed at the time, is when my son was suspended for saying, "One nation under Goddess". He was in 5th or 6th grade at a rural public school. I guess they didn't get the memo about not persecuting children for stuff like that. LOL
Once again Killfile. Excellent seed! hehe
It's like there's a big screenwriter in the sky dropping tips for the next big comedy blockbuster.
Usually you have to pay for this level of comic relief.
Is it telling that someone who obviously wants to divide the country should forget then stumble over the word "indivisible"?
What a putz.
J Bolton:
when I was in middle school ( yikes -a long long time ago) there was a kid in my class who was then called a "hood" or a "greaser" his name was Jay Patterson and he had been "left back" so we all thought he must be dumb--wrong_— he used to say "liberty and justice for some". Wow, that must have been 1962)
Later I found out that it was part of a campaign to sell flags--just like Ralphie in "a Christmas Story" I said to myself, another damn advertisement. Anyway, who wants to pledge to a flag? Ick.
Please don't post in all bold.
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ase don't post in all bold.
me" I didn't mean to if I did. is this showing up like that?
Wow. My 6 year old can recite the Pledge of Allegiance - perfectly. Maybe she should take his place in congress.
How do idiots like this guy and Bachmann get elected? For that matter . how does any Republican get elected?
I'll bet she has a stonger sense of morality, of right-and-wrong.
Killfile, not only does he @!$%# it up but it looks as though he was reading it too. Watch him look down several times during the recital of the pledge. What a @!$%#ing moron!
Good catch! voted^
He was looking at notes. I think he left out "indivisible" on purpose, because he wants us divided, that just gives them more power over us.
No surprise that he would leave out the word "indivisible"
Well, hey, it is five syllables.
That's two over the teabagger limit.
desent ?
All in bold again? And it's dissent.
I can take most anything you dish out in a normal typeface.
If you'd care to decant some decent dissent upon the descent of your font's weight, I'll be happy to read and respond.
Mighty decent of you.
In philosophy we say that a question reveals the knowledge of the person asking the question. So I think it can also be said that a person questioning policy is revealing their knowledge of the policy. If it happens to be that the questions take the form of attacks, I think the attack is certainly revealing the knowledge of the attacker.
Cheers,
Isn't that one of the only things that little kids in America are ever expected to remember.
Oh, that's right, Republicans take their cues from Multinational Corporations and Wall Street.
Never mind.
The pledge of allegiance is annoying and pointless to me for two reasons.
First, it's an anti-communist propaganda tool left over from the the post WWII paranoia of government and society.
Second, if you look at it from a christian point of view, then it amounts to nothing more than idle worship, which of course is blasphemous to God.
So in reality, these people touting how virtuous and american the pledge is really have no clue what they are talking about and are hypocritical in their statements.
But what else would anyone expect from these idiots?
I'm not sure exactly which liberals Representative Akin is referring to, but I doubt that will include me. And I'm one of them.
" ol' red-scare days." You are aware, I assume, that with the fall of the Soviet Union, and access to KGB files, McCarthy was proven absolutely correct..
thanks for the deciphering of the decanted indecent dissent for those of use who dawdled and missed the dastardly decree.
(sorry all that halloween candy m wife thinks she hid in the back of the freezer?-nope)
then again we are dealing with teabag defenders.
To be honest?
I honestly don't think they care because, they just don't honestly care....
All they care about anymore is a belly-full of hate and something/someone to blame it on anymore... even if that means tearing down everything America stood for to begin with...
It's frankly, sad, to me at least, but, there it is.... they won't stop because they have no reason to and... in the end, they will consume everything they claimed to stand for....
History just SUCKS sometimes......
More of the same... Say "God Bless America" and wave the flag, even if it falls over while you're fumbling all over yourself trying to remember the Pledge. And have John Boehner quoting from the "Constitution" even though it was actually the Declaration of Independence.
It's all about symbology and fake patriotism, because, honestly, that's all they've got to cling to anymore. They can't have an honest debate about anything because they'll lose in a fair discussion.
No wonder he got confused. Here's the Pledge he's so used to reciting:
I pledge allegiance to the firm of United Bank and Trust, (or whomever)
and to the shareholders for whom it stands,
one market, under the CEO,
in your pockets,
with liquidity and bonuses for us.
What's Boehner's favorite letter of the alphabet?
Anything, as long as it's "not Z."
Hah! Get it? I just made that up this minu.... ok ok it's not really all that funny. It sounded funnier in my head before I typed it out.
Sorry the best for me was Boehner reading the preamble to the declaration of Independence and claiming he was reading the Constitution while holding a (brand new looking) copy of it up!
i didn't see it on TV but was Boehner giving the original Nazi salute while reading it or the wishy - washy, namby - pamby liberal watered down version enforced upon decent god fearing americans by that socialist misfit FDR? No red blooded american male would dare to be seen giving to FDR salute. why everyone would think he was a socialist, a fellator, a literate.
Is there something wrong with you Dr Fell?
Seems like the good Doc's message was just pulled from a bottle that washed up on the shores of Kool-Aid cove.
Nah, Boehner was giving the Palin salute. He disguised the salute by pretending he had something in his eye. He didn't want the liberal media to know that he was signalling the Queen of Facebook.
Ya, you betcha.
Good one Susan, LOL. I forgot about "the finger."
Oh no, I was actually thinking about Palin's wink.
LOL. I need to be more explicit.
Although, now that I think about it, maybe the "finger" was the signal. I can't imagine the Republican establishment is all that tickled with Palin and her buddies. After all, they did lose a seat to the Dems because of the infighting between the moderates and the "real" Republicans.
Is there something wrong with you Dr Fell?
I believe he was referring to the original flag salute, which was arm extended toward the flag, palm down. When the NAZIs started using that, we kinda changed ours.
Actually Susan, the 'pundits' are saying it was an example of the 'New' (Palin lead) extreme right wing's power to effect change by getting rid of the 'moderate' or 'establishment' Republicans...
Viewpoints: GOP moderates face revolt from their own radical right
The net result is minus-one for the Republicans and plus-one for the Democrats in the House. That arithmetic seems to have escaped Erick Erickson, editor in chief of the Web site RedState.com, which is almost as influential in the tea party world as Palin's Facebook page. He wrote: "This is a huge win for conservatives. … We did exactly what we set out to do – crush the establishment-backed GOP candidate."
Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele crowed about winning the two governorships. "Assume the Heisman position. Yeah baby. That's my moment," he said Wednesday on MSNBC. But even Steele couldn't find joy in the New York debacle. "I don't see a victory in losing seats," he said, quite logically.
The tea party people have made clear, however, that logic doesn't count – and that this is just the beginning. The next target, now that they've made the world safe from Scozzafava, seems to be Florida Gov. Charlie Crist, who is running for the Senate. Crist committed the unforgivable sin of supporting Obama's stimulus bill, and must face a conservative former state legislator, Marco Rubio, in the primary.
Though I don't know what good they'll do, since they aren't 'in office'...
for those except Buckeye who have no idea about the pledge or history.
it was written by francis bellamy, a socialist & it was promoted by him & his cousin edward ( another socialist ) in their magazine youth's companion.
..and the DAR with the American Legion changed it to read "..the Flag of the United States of America.."
..and lest we forget, in 1954 "under God" was added by those Columbus, Knights of, folks.
@ #2.1: Ours was not a "Nazi" salute; it was the original salute. We changed it so it wouldn't be mistaken for a Nazi salute.
(Which is actually Roman, not Nazi.)
The Oath of the Horatii, i think.
Nice painting.
Once again the patriotism fakers are more concerned with a line that was stuck into the existing Pledge during the 50's Red Scare than the actual Pledge itself. Notice how Captain Dip@!$%# rushes through all those meaningless words to get to the part where he can scream America is a nation "Under God" and then forgets there are some more meaningless words after that. Just another Neo-Con GOP @!$%#tard.
Republicans are idiots. There's no other conclusion I can reach.
....invisible, for Richard Stands, one nation......
sorry, I teach elementary school and couldn't resist...hehehehee
That is absolutely priceless! Frickin' priceless!
How ironically delicious!
It seems that the words "under God" drive liberals crazy. Mayhaps the word "indivisible" drive neo-cons nuts? Ah, those Freudian slips.
Al 616 wrote:
It seems that the words "under God" drive liberals crazy. Mayhaps the word "indivisible" drive neo-cons nuts? Ah, those Freudian slips.
Nah. I think he just got a boner when he screamed about his deity and then forgot the rest.
wouldn't that be a Boehner?
Bwaaaaaaahahahahahahaha @ Cpt. John Smith!!!!!!!! ^^
I am a center/ center left and I love the Pledge.....
But it is too funny to see a Screamer mess it up.....
If this is the real America and the real Americans that Palin was talking about, I would hate to see us "commie" liberals say the Pledge of Allegiance
How does it feel to be irrelevant!
You tell us.
Hrm. We control Congress and the Presidency.
But of course, the GOP has the new governors in NJ and VA and all the important national decisions they will--oh, wait...
The Queen Teabagger couldn't even get one of her own past the voters in a conservative-for-150-years district.
LOL.
We control Congress and the Presidency
That doesn't seem to be working out to well for a lot of people in our great nation.
That doesn't seem to be working out to well for a lot of people in our great nation.
Thanks to the effects of Bush's policies.
I'll wait until 2012 to judge, thanks.
How do you plan to blame Bush for the things that are totally "owned" by Obama? I was NOT happy with Bush, and am a lot less happy with Obama and company. You can't spend your way out of debt! Just exactly where do you all think the money is going to come from for all the programs, bail outs, give aways etc? They can't give away anything until they have taken it away from someone else.
Ever heard the phrase "you need to spend money to make money?"
The simple fact is that Bush eff-up the economy and we will be feeling the pain of that for awhile longer. Unemployment went from 7.5% to 10.6% in Reagan's first 2.5 years, did you think him a failure for that?
you mean like giving corporations tax breaks while they take away jobs in this country?
you mean like giving corporations tax breaks while they take away jobs in this country?
Bush's economic policies are coming back to bite us.
Seems as though many only want to discuss what Bush did to damage this country, and I agree that was plenty. That horse already has saddle sores. How about a little honest discussion about what Obama has already done to this country in his short time in office??
How about a little honest discussion about what Obama has already done to this country in his short time in office??
Glad to. Make your case. But let's not pretend that a lot of this countries woes don't stem from the previous administration. Certainly Obama can be legitimately faulted on some issues. Can't say I'm too happy with a lot of that bailout @!$%# myself. But making the case that 10-months in office has magically distanced us from the damage of the eight previous years is a tough, tough, sell...
...Not that Paul Lucero or any of this is actually on-topic or remotely relevant to the seed at all. Just sayin'.
Queen Teabagger I have got to remember that...thanks Jones Girl.
Epic FAIL.
"Life's tough......it's even tougher if you're stupid." John Wayne
Have a picture of the Duke & that phrase on my office wall.
I also found it interesting that Rep. Boehner didn't know the difference between the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. I truly believe most 8th graders could tell you that difference. My 6th grade granddaughter certainly can. These demonstrations simply show me that the Republican party is desperate enough to align themselves with anyone. There is however no place in their tent if you are any color except white or if you dare to hold any social value they don't think you should have.
Yeah Right! According to these twits Liberals are scared of their own shadows! I am pleased to announce that the alleged Tea Bag Non-Patriots and their House and Senate counterparts Have been successful and can claim complete victory in their battle against mental health! Mich-Hell Bachman,John Boehner, Mr.Braun and Virginnia (Opossum face) Foxx ( I used to have a sofa with the exact same fabric as her jacket) and other mentally challenged Republican legislators have taken the final step in the complete destruction of their credibility. They made mistake after mistake after mistake and still claim victory and relevance to what this nation really needs. What galls me the most is that banner with the Dachau victims and the statement it held. How could a human being act this way? They have become the very thing that they hate! Sick,Heinous,Communistic Heartless Bastards! And they are PROUD of this! These people are Americans in name only and Insane in every way! And by the way...where was the Queen W.A.S.P.? Sarah Paliban herself?
This is why I have labeled them 'Faux Patriots'...
They 'talk' but that's all it is, and then they can't even get that correct...
Yeah sure, real patriots they proove to be....my patootie...
Heh, heh.
Pride goeth before distruction and a haughty spirit before a fall.
It drives me crazy when people pause between "one nation" and "under God".
Without a pause it's an affirmation ("One Nation under God. Yes!).
With the pause it's a constraint ("One Nation -- sigh -- under God -- whether you like it or not," which is I guess how it was intended).
At least the Christians are beginning to understand the second sigh. ("One Nation -- sigh -- indivisible --).
the pause was put there to help the mouth breathers
:-)~
lol CapnJohnSmith....
It drives me crazy when people pause between "one nation" and "under God".
The prepositional phrase "under God" (not original to the Pledge, but added later to foil the Commies) is offset by commas; there SHOULD be a pause.
It drives me crazy when people pause between "one nation" and "under God".
The prepositional phrase "under God" (not original to the Pledge, but added later to foil the Commies) is offset by commas; there SHOULD be a pause.
I had a journalism grammar professor who said that commas surrounding a phrase should be treated like "handles;" the phrase isn't needed, and it can be "grabbed by the handles" and pulled out without altering the meaning.
Seems to me that the commas were used perfectly in the PoA. :)
there SHOULD be a pause
To emphasize that it was an afterthought?
there SHOULD be a pause
To emphasize that it was an afterthought?
Not necessarily. Prepositional phrases are offset by commas; a comma calls for a slight pause.
How did the people in that district in Missouri elect that maroon?
I think you meant "moron". Or, at least, that would make a lot of sense if it was what you meant. Good question.
No, no . .he meant maroon. ::nibbles on a carrot::
Maroon is derived from French marron ("chestnut"). So:
Eric asks "How did the people in the district in Missouri elect that chestnut?". I am not sure but lets blame it on an Acorn.
Get a sense of humor, man. Bugs Bunny ftw.
Longhorn,
If you are referring to me, sorry that I come across as a humorless dick. My wife tells me the same thing.
"What a maroon" Bugs Bunny
http://poietes.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/bugs-bunny-pointing-copy1.jpg
TR,
Thanks; there's half a chance I will remember that. I really didn't like those cartoons but I guess they are part of the fabric of our great nation. My kids will probably take course in college where such icons will be explained.
Eric,
My apologies for the correction. (But I still think calling someone a chestnut is pretty devastating.
This sort of pop culture reference was why I finally let my kids watch cartoons as children. I only let them watch PBS or the old Nickelodeon until the eldest was about 4. He came in one day and said he needed a scarf. When queried as to why, he replied, "We are playing super heroes and I want to be Dr Who . . or Capt Moroni". (We were Mormon) I asked him what the other children were being and he said something about a Super Guy and a Spider Guy. I knew then he would never be able to communicate with his peers if I continued my "no network television" policy and let him start watching Saturday morning cartoons.
Gwenny,
I understand the logic there with adaptive approach to parenting.
Yeah, the muffed PofA was telling. What a pinhead.
Sorry for going off topic, but whenever I see a printed copy of what was presumably a copy of the Health Care bill obscuring a podium I feel compelled to suggest that a CD with a pdf of the thing would be a better way to do. With a pdf you can search for keywords, print out sections of special interest to you, easier to haul around and so on.
Oh, come on now, you know its just an emotional 'prop'...with the cd of the pdf the proof is too easy to counter their points with...the research is easy to do, and their points will be logically dismissed...
They can't have that...
dcstone01,
You mean that hauling the paper copy around and standing behind it is a cheap political stunt? I am shocked; just plain shocked (again).
BTW: I hope that one printed copy gets shuttled around. If not, I am thinking deforestation for, as you say, an emotional prop.
Yeah, I am very surprised us 'liberuuls' (can you believe it took 4 tries to spell that incorrectly?) or us 'environmental treehugging Nazi wacko's' aren't complaining about the 'mass' amounts of paper used to print it up...
Oh well...there is always something to complain about by someone, right?
Can you imagine a spiritual leader printing out the a governing theological text on single-sided double-spaced and delivering a sermon from behind it?
Yes, there is always something to complain about: a self-righteous and dumb tea-bagger comes to mind and thanks to Killfile for directing us to him.
What is your preference "you libs" or "you liberuuls". I don't like either but endure both as long as I can say "tea bagger". Never tried adding new words to the NV spellchecker. Can we do that? I have tried "teabagger" but it doesn't fly though "tea bagger" does. I just hate the extra space (wastes paper) for all my printouts of my best comments.
lol
I prefer correctly spelled words...(but admit to a few mistakes now and then...)
My typos are usually due to leaving out critical words. For example I'd type " I like Sarah Palin or Brussels sprouts" when I really mean " I don't like Saral Palin or Brussels sprouts". Kind of scary huh? No spellchecker safety net there.
I love this thread, thanks guys
Hey... Not nearly as bad as Boehner saying he was holding his pocket constitution and when he begins to read from it he actually reads the Declaration of Independence... The complete incompetence and stupidity of our elected officials never ceases to amaze me.
The complete incompetence and stupidity of our elected officials never ceases to amaze me.
What truly amazes me are 'the people' who believe them (unless they were told they would have believed "B" was reading the 'Constitution' anyway, they are ignorant of the difference) and vote them into office...
pocket Constitution? That's kinda funny. He must have a lot of pockets for all his pocket sized documents and Bible. Hey, Boner, is that a bible in your pocket, or are you just.....
I'm REALLY sorry about that. It just flew out of my brain onto my keyboard out of control.
He probably buys his suits from the same place as Dennis Kucinich.
do love this mess the poor sucker got himself into, but then most of need to read the Constitution and all the amendments every few years to refresh our memory and once again show us how democracy is always growing and changing...
...show us how democracy is always growing and changing...
Well, see,...there is that to their argument...they feel it shouldn't or isn't supposed to 'change'....
always wonder how anyone can say that with a straight face, and always wonder what period in history they would like to go back to that was better.....
I am just so glad I don't have to be a "conservative" and constantly go around making an utter fool of myself. Thanks, lord!
ladyinred..Thanks Lord!..and your good,sane judgement!
Schroedinger, you're most welcome. I didn't capitalize "Lord" because I thought it might be censured/filtered or something. As you, I just try so hard to keep things in a proper perspective, not get too radical (although I am pretty set in what I accept and believe in), and still be compassionate and caring toward others. It must be an awful burden to carry around so much hate inside. I'm truly grateful that I don't have to tote that on my back every day when I arise.
well said Ladyinred1.
He needs to get teabagged.
What would that solve?
You couldn't pay me enough...
He probably bites.
I am just hoping to he doesn't talk.
I for one will not get close enough to him to do it...yuk yuk
He hustled away from the podium and microphone after his screw-up. He would have gotten in right if it were not for Nancy Pelosi...or something. Surely he's not to be held accountable for any of his actions, he's a Republican.
Now he knows how Janet Jackson felt at the Superbowl.
Like an exposed boob?
Yeah, I suppose that's fitting...
To be fair, Akin made a mistake. I enjoy it when the high and mighty fall flat on their faces, however, especially when the fall-ee is so damn self-righteous and sanctimonious. Nevertheless, it was a mistake.
Boehner, on the other hand, is something else. Has he never read either the Constitution or the Declaration of Independence? What was that he was holding in his hand? I doubt it was mis-labeled: Boehner simply doesn't know our Constitution from the Declaration of Independence! And he's a leader in our House of Representatives! That's stunning. That's a national embarrassment. He's up there just winging it, ignorant of our history, ignorant of our most important documents, ignorant of our heritage. And all the while he thinks he's cool doing it!
That's stunning. That's unexplicable. That's unforgivable. We deserve better.
Does extreme tanning kill brain cells, I wonder.
Tanning might kill brain cells, but I think brain atrophy for these guys is a pre-existing condition.
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