Republicans Need A Leader, Not A Celebrity

They never,as usual,can be honest as to why they dislike her.

On the contrary, I'm quite honest and up front about why I, personally dislike her.

They never,as usual,can be honest as to why they dislike her.

She's an idiot.

There. I'm a liberal. I was honest.

Now I'll leave you to your regularly scheduled hyperbole...

That's is just the type of stupid juvenile comment you libs are good for.An idiot?Hardly.I don't think her presidential at this point but an idiot,no.

Devil - Nah, she's an idiot...

"As Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where– where do they go? It's Alaska. It's just right over the border." --Sarah Palin, explaining why Alaska's proximity to Russia gives her foreign policy experience, interview with CBS's Katie Couric, Sept. 24, 2008

"Who calls a shot like that? Who makes a decision like that? It's a disturbing trend." –Sarah Palin, pushing a conspiracy theory that "In God We Trust" had been moved to the edge of coins because of the Obama administration (the change was made by the Bush administration in 2007 and was later reversed by Congress, before Obama took office), West Allis, Wisconsin, Nov. 6, 2009

"I think on a national level your Department of Law there in the White House would look at some of the things that we've been charged with and automatically throw them out." --Sarah Palin, referring to a department that does not exist while attempting to explain why as president she wouldn't be subjected to the same ethics investigations that compelled her to resign as governor of Alaska, ABC News interview, July 7, 2009

All from the 10 dumbest Palin Quotes here...

Devil 1 - i will be honest as to why i do not like her - she would like to move the woman's movement back 50 years - take away a woman's right to choose what is best fro her and her life (while she herself admitting to making a "choice" to carry her pregnancy to term instead of terminating it) - i don't like the fact that she has voiced her opinion that unless women can work in "important" jobs like politics they should stay home & raise children - i hate her "abstinence only" propaganda that was proven worthless in her own family - i dislike her stance on almost everything - thats honest

Devil 1 - I have never heard any good, logical reasons from any of her supporters why Sarah Palin would make a good president (or vice-president). What I am looking for are reasons supported by facts and good reasoning not hyperbole. Care to give me a few?

You don't need to think she's an idiot. I could really care less what you think.

I think she's an idiot. That's why I don't like her.

That said, I agree with most of Nica's points, too.

@ Nica:

she would like to move the woman's movement back 50 years - take away a woman's right to choose what is best fro her and her life (while she herself admitting to making a "choice" to carry her pregnancy to term instead of terminating it)

That's a fallacy all the Left Believes. How many presidents have we had, and when has this ever changed since it's inception?

It would take the supreme court to change it, and we all see who is on the court. It's, for decades always been pretty even. Congress makes sure of that.

No, it all comes back to a single point, Sarah is DUMB.

greg - but my point is that she would like to move the woman's movement back as stated by my reasons - THAT IS WHY I DON"T LIKE HER - not because she is attractive - her looks have nothing to do with why i don't like her - or maybe you people on the right that keep insisting that is the reason women don't like her would care to admit the reason you don't like Obama is because he is a good looking well fit man - not because you don't agree with his politics - i am so sick of being accused of not liking her because of her looks - as if i am not secure in myself to decide that regardless of how she looks i do not like where she stands on the issues

I defend Sarah at all times because the libs are just stupid when it comes to her.

Calling liberals 'stupid' is no way to gain sympathy or support for your point of view.

greg -not because she is attractive - her looks have nothing to do with why i don't like her - or maybe you people on the right that keep insisting that is the reason women don't like her would care to admit the reason you don't like Obama is because he is a good looking well fit man -

Man, I didn't know I had invisible words you could see? You are good!

AGAIN - It would take the supreme court to change it,

greg - keep stating that - it does not change her stance on the issues & that is what i don't like about her - and since that was what Devil insinuated by his/her post that is what i am responding to -

she would like to move the woman's movement back 50 years - take away a woman's right to choose what is best fro her and her life (while she herself admitting to making a "choice" to carry her pregnancy to term instead of terminating it)

That's a fallacy all the Left Believes.

No, that's what Palin stated. On camera.

http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/node/8155

People can state all they want. Doesn't mean its going to happen. Just look at Obama's statements during the Election. The Left is pissed, since he hasn't lived up to those promises. They're threatening all over the place, not to fund Senators and House Members, if they don't vote the way they want them to vote.

Big Deal on Statements. Actions speek louder, and Obama talks a good talk overseas. SNL said it the best in their comedy sketch last week.

You don't seem to understand--people are pissed because she said it. Not because she has any power whatsoever but because we find her stated position on the issue to be reprehensible.

Courts - of course he "misunderstands" because then he would have to admit that women don't like her because of REAL reasons - and that they don't agree with him

Greg - i will restate - I DON"T LIKE HER BECAUSE OF HER STANCE ON THE ISSUES - would you vote for someone that you disagree with simply because the person was good looking or the same sex as you - or do you vote for people that have the same stance as you? - why should women be allowed less?

Greg - why didn't you vote for Obama?

Greg - why didn't you vote for Obama

Because McCain was the lessor of two evils and those were my choices. I don't believe in not voting.

I am seeing what voting for Obama is doing. He was such a "Money savor" and a "bring people together" person, just Like Bush was, isn't he?

Greg - rigth - you didn't like Obama's satnce on issues - his stance on the issues would not allow him to overturn the country into a socialistic country regardless of what the fear mongers say - that would take overturning the Constitution & i find that an impossibility in the few years he will have - but its ok for you to vote for your stances but not alright for me? - just because she couldn't overturn many of the rights women have gained does not mean i have to like her stance on issues & so why should i have to vote for her? because she has a vagina or simply because if i don't i am a jealous hag - so not voting for Obama makes you what? - a 90lb weakling?

I don't know that I'd really call Sarah an idiot. But she sure ain't the sharpest knife in the drawer. You betcha. Wink.

@ Nica:

because she has a vagina or simply because if i don't i am a jealous hag

Your stuck on the female thing aren't you! Are you a 60's feminist?

so not voting for Obama makes you what? - a 90lb weakling?

Nope!

Makes me happy I didn't vote for the 90lb weakling after seeing what the weaklings voted in.

Greg, I don't think Nica is old enough to be a 60's feminist.....some women (including my republican mother) think that women should be able to decide how many children they have, whether they should work outside of the home for their own income, that they should make the same amount of money as men do for the same work......you know, 60's feminist issues. If it weren't for those same 60's feminist issues, Sarah Palin probably would not have become Govenor of Alaska, although she may have been President of the PTA.

It's like Phyliss Schfaly(sp) telling women they should stay home and take care of their family at the same time she's flying around giving lectures and writing books, enjoying her own career. Women, like myself, don't like to be told I can't do that, while you are doing it.

Greg - as i stated - i was responding to Devils insinuation that i am not honest in my reasons for disliking Palin - his/her insinuation was that we "hate" her because she is good looking & for no real reason - you took it beyond that - i simply state - HONESTLY - i do not like her because of her stance on the issues & your responses are tiresome

What they complain about and call her, is nuts,They never,as usual,can be honest as to why they dislike her

I personally dislike her from a woman's standpoint because I feel she is fake "homey" ( like thats something to apire to) and not very bright. As a woman who was in power, she should have inspired instead of making us wince. That said, its funny that you think we pick on her without reason, when we've heard the right complain about everything from a puppy's name to a swing set.

There have been judges that didn't make it, if congress makes a big enough stink.

Robert Bork comes to mind. His nomination failed with the help of alot of outsiders.

On October 23, 1987, the Senate rejected Bork's confirmation, with 42 Senators voting in favor and 58 voting against. Senators David Boren (D-OK) and Ernest Hollings (D-SC) voted in favor, with Senators John Chafee (R-RI), Bob Packwood (R-OR), Richard Shelby (D-AL), Arlen Specter (R-PA), Robert Stafford (R-VT), John Warner (R-VA) and Lowell P. Weicker, Jr. (R-CT) all voting nay. The vacant seat on the court to which Bork was nominated eventually went to Judge Anthony Kennedy.

It can happen again!

Judge Sotomyor made it, and she's a little left of center.

Sarah is one of those disgusting women who want feminism but are afraid the boys won't like them, so they pussyfoot around the term, or call themselves silly things like "new feminists". They don't have the ovaries to stand up and say yeah, I believe in equality. So they choose high powered careers while calling themselves "homemakers"; they are ambitious while all the while telling other women that women should stay home with their families. I don't need an ex female governor or president-wannabe telling my daughter she shouldn't have a career. Women like that think they are fooling men??!! By taking all that feminism has to offer (career choice, reproductive choice, equal rights, equal pay, etc.) but sneering at feminism, they aren't ingratiating themselves with men. They are making themselves objects of ridicule with both men and women.

Oh, I dunno, reaching out to people by appearing places other than the news, which not everyone watches... Sounds like an idea to me.

But, of course, I should know better than to respond to another, "Oh, yeah, well YOUR guys..." diversion attempt. Sorry, Kill.

Hey, we could always go back to the C Student and the Dick. NOT!!!

It took celebrity status for Obama to win. Is this another case of double standards?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/23/obama-thanks-hollywood-wi_n_367720.html

Did Obama go on Oprah? Hey, are we sure Palin is even really a republican? She's a proud Title IX girl, she considered aborting her child twice, she calls herself a "new" feminist, she goes on Oprah, she makes sexist remarks against men...

I'm starting to wonder if Sarah Palin isn't a liberal operative!

Yes, Obama did go on Oprah and even danced with her.

BTW, if Hollywood didn't play a part in his election, explain this.

http://cuporeality.newsvine.com/_news/2009/11/23/3535531-obama-thanks-hollywood-with-coveted-invites-to-first-white-house-state-dinner

Once Obama announced his candidacy, he did NOT appear on Oprah. He appeared previous to his run when he was a senator, but never after his announcement. You may recall the hissy fit by the conservative base when Oprah decided not to invite Palin to appear. Oprah stated that, when she decided to support Obama, she would NOT use her show to support either candidate.

"At the beginning of this presidential campaign, when I decided that I was going to take my first public stance in support of a candidate, I made the decision not to use my show as a platform for any of the candidates," Winfrey said in a statement.

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/item_CoX4FiXXqGpc4Mr6jdMxTN#ixzz0XmHXtXOx

He was on her show numerous times and so was his wife.

http://www.oprah.com/article/world/peopleandpolitics/pkginauguration/20090119_orig_obamavideos

It wasn't until after questions arose as to when she would have McCain or Palin on her show, that she announced that she would not have anymore candidates on her show and then backed Obama.

He was on her show twice, the last time in October, 2006, before he declared as a candidate for president.

Okay gotta disagree - Like that is anything new here !!

Hope you had a good weekend Greg,

But now come on....let the liberal that is buried in you out already. I know you can do it. Go for it!

Let's look at health care for one. Obama set out a laundry list of items he considered reform......lo and behold....that list has made it into the bills before the house and senate. There is leadership.

Oh and BTW, the Polls suggest your opinion is again like the GOP in the minority....

PRINCETON, NJ -- Of seven personal characteristics, Americans rate Barack Obama most highly for those that reflect on his leadership skills. Seventy-two percent say he "is willing to make hard decisions," and 66% describe him as "a strong and decisive leader." Sixty-four percent say he "can get things done."

http://www.gallup.com/poll/123104/obama-leadership-qualities-stand-out-americans.aspx

@ btco:

Had a great weekend. I did nothing for a change. Thanks for asking! How was yours?

Seventy-two percent say he "is willing to make hard decisions,"

I guess Afgansistan proves that wrong.

66% describe him as "a strong and decisive leader

Not really. Harry was asking where he was during the Health Care dbates. Obama waits until things settle down, and goes behind the scenes to get the votes. you don't actually think the Landrieu payoff was Harry's idea, do you?

Sixty-four percent say he "can get things done."

He is good at getting written or promtor speeches done. God forbid one of those should fail. Loved the "Onion" parady!

By the way, which poll's are you speaking of?

January or November?

Greg #4.2

Seventy-two percent say he "is willing to make hard decisions,"

I guess Afgansistan proves that wrong.

No, Afghanistan proves that right. President Obama will announce his decision after careful consideration of various alternatives, viewpoints and assessments. He knows it is a hard decision and that's why he wants to make sure it's the right decision. Maybe if his predecessors had deliberated as carefully we might not be in this mess.

President Obama will make that decision after the highest death month and this month is getting close. 290 and counting.

Gee, what should he do?

I can see him now with his hands out like scales:

Soldier Death's, Great foriegn Government, Soldier Death's, Great foriegn Government. DUH! No comparison.

He needs to be a tad bit quicker if he wants to save our people.

I'm sure every soldier's death weighs heavily on the president and he will do what is necessary to prevent unnecessary deaths going forward by making the right decision. Would you prefer he make a rash decision and send thousands more troops into harm's way without a real plan? Just get 'em in there and we'll worry about what to do with 'em later! That's going to save lots of lives, isn't it.

President Obama will make that decision after the highest death month and this month is getting close. 290 and counting.

And exactly why the president is on the right path. 290 lives lost in Afghanistain, 45,000 yearly to the lack of health benefits.

http://www.harvardscience.harvard.edu/medicine-health/articles/new-study-finds-45000-deaths-annually-linked-lack-health-coverage

Yes, we need to decide whats best for ourselves in or out of Afghanistan, but the numbers don't lie & the real crisis is health care. Agree also with 4.5

Oh, but it's okay for PALIN to schmooze with Oprah! LOL!

but it's okay for PALIN to schmooze with Oprah

Since oprah paled around with obama and obama paled around with terrorist..

OHHH Sarah sarah sarah how could you!

Profit makes for strange bedfellows.

That is a dumb question. Look at all presidents ever elected. Some had some experience, some didn't. Some were smart, some weren't. Most weren't Senators and we are finding out why these folks (Senators) don't usually get elected. To much experience in the government. We all know, education doesn't mean "@!$%#" when it comes to government.

The biggest fact:

She's not the same old same old we elect, which have caused the problems we have now.

Obama is helping the spending how? His greatest accomplishments were sticking his name on bills that didn't get put into law and apologising to the Senate for being late. Big deal, he's such an experienced lawyer.

And he was a Senator. Nuff Said!

Greg - C'mon, by now you should be experienced enough to do better than the same old right wing rant. . . and it really, really is bizarre to claim ". . . education doesn't mean "@!$%#"" when it comes to government.

It was not a dumb question. . . Just what does Sarah Palin bring to the table that would make her a good president? Please tell me.

Care to try again. . . or do you want to go off on another rant?!?!?!

really is bizarre to claim ".education doesn't mean "@!$%#"" when it comes to government.

Bidens a great example on how education doesn't mean squat. He's a lifer and can't curb his mouth, and he thinks spending more is going to save money. A harvard graduate if I ever saw one.

Dodd and Frank are good examples, as they "fiddled" during the housing failure. Good education wouldn't you say?

Kerry and Kennedy are another. The big dig, sponsored by them, running billions over, and it's not safe. Education does wonders.

They need to try common sense one time.

At Least Governor Palin did something for the state of Alaska, that was good, and don't give me the bridge to no where crap! She even went against Republicans there, unlike Democrats, that would walk on @!$%# for their fellow Democrats.

What did she do for Alaska?

What did she do for Alaska?

She resigned.

This is even from Daily Kos:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/7/29/759243/-Sarah-Palins-Path-to-Victory:-Oil-Checks-for-All

Every Alaskan gets a nice, fat, socialist check every year for the oil & gas that is pumped out of their state. Conservatives love this socialist approach because it gets the public behind all the efforts to "drill, baby, drill." Former Governor Sarah Palin is popular in Alaska in no small measure because she required the oil & gas interests to shell out more money to Alaska's citizens.

Of course, they had to ridecule it more.

Damn, give the people of the State money! What a b i t c h.

Here's a few others:

Opposed a statewide ballot initiative to prohibit or restrict new mining operations that could affect salmon in the state's streams and rivers

Has pushed to build a natural-gas pipeline from Alaska's North Slope

Got the state legislature to pass a bill to provide each Alaskan $1,200 to help with energy costs

Sued the Interior Department over its decision to list the polar bear as a threatened species

Has proposed eliminating Alaska's gas tax

Has pushed to open Arctic National Wildlife Refuge to drilling

Has created a committee to forge Alaska's climate-change strategy, and has made Alaska an observer (but not a member) of the Western Climate Initiative

Opposes a windfall profits tax on oil companies

Was the ethics commissioner of the Alaska Gas and Oil Conservation Commission from 2003 to 2004

Lifelong angler and hunter

Husband is an oil production operator for BP on Alaska's North Slope

Started Alaska's Petroleum Systems Integrity Office, an oversight and maintenance agency for the state's oil and gas equipment, facilities, and infrastructure

Chairs the Interstate Oil and Gas Compact Commission, a multistate panel "that promotes the conservation and efficient recovery of domestic oil and natural gas resources while protecting health, safety and the environment"

Gosh, a few environmental issues, that the Left should be happy with.

Nevermind, I remember. Palin quit.

greg:

Damn, give the people of the State money!

So... Alaska's hand-outs are OK with you? It's not like the residents did anything for that money; they certainly didn't earn it, right?

So... the entire Alaskan oil subsidy payment program... since the checks go directly to the citizens... is a socialist re-distribution of wealth, right? And Palin is supposedly responsible for increasing those payments, so that makes her a socialist... right? She sure didn't seek to allow the oil companies to keep those profits for further exploration, did she?

I'm glad that's settled.

Good comeback trm!

Bettter to quit, than let the State be distracted by frivolous lawsuits that have gone no where.

From Wiki:

The Alaska Permanent Fund is a constitutionally established permanent fund, managed by a semi-independent corporation, established by Alaska in 1976, primarily by the efforts of then Governor Jay Hammond. Shortly after the oil from Alaska’s North Slope began flowing to market through the Trans-Alaska Pipeline System, the Permanent Fund was created by an amendment to the Alaska Constitution to be an investment for at least 25% of proceeds from some minerals (such as oil and gas) sale or royalties

Palin was twelve when the "oil check" program was started.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/160088

http://dahrjamailiraq.com/sarah-palin-makes-another-fraudulent-claim-about-alaska

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&ved=0CAcQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.seattlepi.com%2Fopinion%2F377955_palinenvir07.html&ei=-s0KS9P9MYO0tgeklfm3Cg&usg=AFQjCNGxLGecAyfeD86Xd7MpJcEmsWS-CA

http://tinyurl.com/yj5zpss

And how does Palin's hunting and fishing benefit Alaska? LOL

See Dave;

Like all of us, you lease you pay. It's not a new thing. Like an apratment landlord, they don't lease to you to lose money now, do they.

From State of Alaska DNR (division of oil and gas):

The primary purpose of leasing state lands is to provide for oil and gas development and the subsequent economic benefits for the state and its residents. The Royalty Accounting Section oversees the accounting, analysis, and audit of all oil and gas royalties received through Alaska oil and gas production. Either 25% or 50% of the royalty collected from state leases is deposited in the Permanent Fund. The remainder goes to the General Fund and the School Fund. Money received for settlements of past royalties due is placed in the Budget Reserve Fund.

Are you claiming that Palin can take the credit for $4 a gallon gas? And she is a SOCIALIST? damn!

Crap, formatting ate my post. Will try again when I have the patience.

Rainkiss- I am confused. I wouldn't have an abortion, but I respect other's opinions on the subject. I always thought I was pro-choice, not pro-life like Palin.

greg,

I'm aware that this is not a new program, thank you. The Alaska Permanent Fund has been paying out since 1982. But you failed to answer my question, so I'll rephrase a bit:

Is the program, by its own nature, socialist? It does take money from the rich (oil company profits) and give to the poor (people with a minimum one-year residency)... so that would make it a redistribution of wealth, correct?

No, it didn't start with Palin. Of course, many of Palin's fans who never heard of the Fund until 2008 think it was her idea.

Rainkiss- I am confused. I wouldn't have an abortion, but I respect other's opinions on the subject. I always thought I was pro-choice, not pro-life like Palin.

I maintain that Sarah Palin, despite her statements, is, in fact, pro-CHOICE, at least where she, herself is concerned. After all, she has stated, multiple times that she CHOSE to have Trig after finding about he'd be born with special needs.

Rainkiss-Don't you find Palin's position just a tad hypocritical? LOL

The first time I heard her say that she "CHOSE" to have Trig, I about fell out of my chair.

Of course, given her statement (in one version of the story, anyway, there have been several) that she, eight months along with a child she knew would possibly need immediate medical attention at birth (Down's Syndrome children are often born with holes in their hearts which require immediate attention), she hopped a plane to Texas, felt her water break (one would presume on her fifth child she'd know what that means), didn't call the doctor, went to give a speech that day, then flew home to drive to her own hospital to have the baby... One might wonder if she was hoping Trig wouldn't survive the birth.

Rainkiss-I prefer to believe she just doesn't have any sense.

Possible.

So, either she did it with malice, or from stupidity... Neither is a quality I want in a leader.

Greg - Amazing!!! You give Palin 'credit' for 'leading' the only socialist state in the Union! You give Palin 'credit' for imposing higher taxes on us (the lower 48) so she could increase the welfare check that Alaska gives to every resident. . . And every other thing you give her 'credit' for is only to protect the amount of Alaskan welfare that the rest of us have pay for.

Do you even take time to read what you 'cut and paste'!!!

@ Dave:

Does the State Land belong to the government or the people?

Lease the Land from the people, they should get a share of the money. Doesn't sound very socialistic to me. Califoria would be better off, well, minutely better off, if they did that, instead of the State stealing the money and blowing it.

Now if you take money from private companies, that own everything, and redisribute it to those that have nothing to do with the business, now that I would say, is socialistic.

Greg - The leases at Prudhoe Bay are on land that was ceded from the Federal government to the state.

The pipeline was built by a small consortium of oil companies.

The Alaskan state taxes are on the private oil companies* who use the pipeline and are charged per barrel through the pipeline.

The new resources are on federally owned land or on the continental shelf (also federally controlled).

Actually, an argument can be made that the oil (and land) belongs to the indigenous populations who have lived there for centuries.

And a very good argument may be made that Alaska is the only true socialist state in the United States because of the welfare that every Alaskan receives from the rest of us.

*The oil companies pass the tax along to end users in the lower 48 states. You and I are paying for the welfare checks going to Alaskans.

Site your sources Ron Christman. Last time I checked AK was the only self sufficient state left and the federal gov't is making a lot off it's resources.

I guess that depends on your definition of self sufficient. Name a few. We know LA isn't one of them since Mary sold out for 300 mil.

Gosh, a few environmental issues, that the Left should be happy with.

Um, did you look at that list closely? You want to vote for her but you don't even know what her stance is on the environmental issues you voted for? the Left would NOT be happy with her stance on these issues! LOL!!!!

Last time I checked AK was the only self sufficient state left and the federal gov't is making a lot off it's resources.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/9/3/16105/50263/679/584098

The article you linked is incomplete, inaccurate and questionable.

Unlike the “Lower 48” states, where most of the land is owned by the private sector, less than one

percent of the 365 million acres in Alaska is owned by conventional private owners. Currently, the

federal government owns 60 percent of Alaska and the State of Alaska owns 28 percent. Alaska Native

Corporations account for approximately 12 percent of the state

And the federal government receives around 20% of the oil revenue according to the gov. site I checked, which is not included in that article you sited.

So yes, the Federal Government should be supporting land management etc.

*The oil companies pass the tax along to end users in the lower 48 states. You and I are paying for the welfare checks going to Alaskans.

Seems ALaska has the lowest tax per gallon passed on to the consumer:

From API:

http://www.api.org/statistics/fueltaxes/upload/Gasoline_Map_10-2009.pdf

and

It seems, no matter the complaint on Higher profit tax rates, the oil companies get a break with refundable oil and gas tax credits:

From State of Alaska Dept. of Revenue:

http://www.api.org/statistics/fueltaxes/upload/Gasoline_Map_10-2009.pdf

Greg - The simple fact is that Alaska takes money from business (taxing oil companies) and gives it to it's citizens (Every Alaskan gets a check). It is above and beyond the taxes to maintain infrastructure, police, fire, etc., and the cost of government.

That is, to use right wing terms, either re-distribution of wealth or welfare. Actually, I say it's both.

As for Federal taxes; Alaska gets back from the Federal government more than it's citizens pay in taxes. It's around 1.85 dollars returned per dollar paid in taxes. Only Mississippi and New Mexico get more (per dollar paid).

As for the lower 48 paying the tax on the oil through the pipeline - it is built into the cost of the product.

It's easy to be "self-sufficient" when you are taxing others and getting a big return from the Federal government. Facts are facts - Your Ms. Palin was the one who signed the tax increase into law to give more back to her grateful constituents (you can read that as her welfare recipients). It's pretty easy to run around and thump your chest about being independent when all you have to do to get the check is to breath Alaskan air.

Have you even complained about the tax rates in other states, against the oil companies, or is this just a Palin thing hanging over your head.

Seems California and New York are the worst on taxes. Go after someone or thing that's really causing a problem instead of someone you just hate.

As I posted, Alaska give tax insentives back. October 2009

BTW Greg - You still haven't answered my original question.

Can you give me any good, logical reasons why Sarah Palin would make a good president (or vice-president)? What I am looking for are reasons supported by facts and good reasoning not hyperbole. how about some examples of her understanding and positions on foreign policy, energy policy, health care, investment, nuclear proliferation, education, . . .

In case you want to go off on a tangent, don't bother. Obama had policy statements and position papers on all of the above and much more before he entered the presidential race. And, in most cases, he had taken some action on his concerns as a senator, state senator and yes, as a community organizer.

he had taken some action on his concerns as a senator, s

Show me more than signing on to things that never made law and show me more than his apologise for being late to meetings and hearings while in the Senate. Never heard somebody apologize more than Obama does.

i didn't see all those so called great things come out during the campaign. All I've seen is promises and broken promises.

At least Sarah will look you in the eye, unlike Obama, who needs a teleprompter to tell him to look you in the eye.

Greg - Never said I hated Palin, I just asked a Palin supporter (you) to tell me what has she done, or what positions has she taken, to earn that support.

The taxes at the pump in every state, including Alaska, are end-user taxes that, in most cases, go to maintaining roads and infrastructure. I'm sure that there are taxes on oil companies in states where they have refineries, etc. but the Alaskan situation is unique to Alaska. Tax the product (end user outside of the state) and give the 'revenue' to Alaskans. Palin didn't create the tax, she just increased it.

Palin didn't create the tax, she just increased it.

Didn't she do exactly what everybody complaigned about should be done, when gas prices went sky high? Even O'Reilly was saying that should be done.

Now that they came down again, she's a witch for doing what everybody was saying should have been done in the first place?

People need to make up their minds.

Greg, greg, you are going off on that tangent again. Step up and tell me what she has done, said, written. . . (other than look you in the eye).

If you didn't know what Obama had done before the election (and since), it's your fault for not paying attention.

I recently received a list of 90 things that President Obama has done or initiated since January 20th from a professor down south. I haven't done anything with it because I wanted to verify each item and organize it some before I put it out for discussion. I recognize most things on the list but, so it wouldn't get blasted by the anti-Obama crowd, I wanted to make sure that there were links available.

BTW - Why do you always need links, you know how to Google. I like that better because you can always search for the original source and not have to rely on links from either the right or left.

Greg - It's hard to keep up with you on your misinformation. What McCain, Clinton, (and O'Reilly) talked about was lowering the gasoline tax, not increasing it. They wanted to temporarily suspend the Federal gas tax.

No, O'Reilly said the Oil companies should pay for windfall profits and said it was a detriment to the country because of their profits, during the hard times.

You didn't watch did you?

I haven't posted anything on McCain and Clinton!

Are you on the same Article or, switching back and forth?

Even the government now, is talking windfall taxes. Hello!

Difference with Alaska, they give tax breaks to keep the Oil companies drilling. Congress just wants!

Greg - You got me on O'Reilly, I'm not a 'regular' watcher. But again, you are going off on a tangent. What is it that Sarah Palin has done, said, written, (whatever) to earn your support. Take your time; I've got to go away for a while.

. . . and I'm not sure what your logic is on the windfall profit tax and it's connection to what occurs in Alaska.

Show me more than signing on to things that never made law

Sure.

It has really been bothering me - the charges that Obama is all talk and no action.  Those of us who support him and have reviewed his record know there is no basis to this charge, but just to make sure, I went to the Congressional Record (www.thomas.gov) and did a search for bills sponsored or co-sponsored by Senator Obama in his three short years in the US Senate.  I searched the 109th and 110th Congresses which cover the years 2005-2007.

In a nut shell I found:

Senator Obama has sponsored or co-sponsored 570 bills in the 109th and 110th Congress.

Senator Obama has sponsored or co-sponsored 15 bills that have become LAW since he joined the Senate in 2005.

Senator Obama has also introduced amendments to 50 bills, of which 16 were adopted by the Senate.

His record is in fact quite impressive for a junior Senator from Illinois.

Details at the link.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/2/21/164117/783/290/461422

You've researched Obama but not Palin and you hold up a list to support your ideals. Don't you think it's about time to look at both. Try AK.gov for Palin's record.

Here's a link http://google.state.ak.us/search?q=palin&sort=date%3AD%3AL%3Ad1&output=xml_no_dtd&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&client=StateWide&site=StateWide&proxystylesheet=StateWide

Education

Health Care

Senior Care

Apprenticeship Program

If you want more information, you should start researching it.

Let's see... List starts off with the infamous hunting wolves from helicopters program. Nice. -1

Congratulates the guy she appointed to a position. 0

Signs Supplmental Budget -1. Since she couldn't manage to turn in a decent budget in the first place...

Signed a bill into law. 0. That's her job.

Forwarded some research, I'd imagine she didn't even read it, another 0... Let's try another link, she's not doing so hot, here.

Education... that's just a report by a task force. Did it actually get implemented?

Health care... Press release saying, "I'm gonna fix it!" December, 2008, she declares children a priority. Great, on the surface... until you realize that in July of 2009, Medicaid took the rare step of revoking Alaska's license because it was so screwed up. People waiting to be evaluated for Medicaid were dying in line. Guess she knew what she was talking about when she started spouting "death panels," since she had them.

Senior care. See health care. She added back in longevity payments "live here over 60 and, whether you need it or not, we'll send you a check" which were replaced by the previous governor with a need-based program, cutting the amount of the checks given to those seniors with low income to spread the money to those who didn't need it.

And, she announced an apprenticeship program developed by others.

Sorry, not seeing much of anything here to brag about, unless you take into account credit for the work of others. See, some of us HAVE researched.

I'm sure this won't impress you either.

Education:

State Investment in Education Fund – House Bill 172 ensures that Alaskans will have access to low-cost loans to finance their postsecondary education and training through the Alaska Student Loan Corporation, continuing a 40-plus-year Alaskan tradition of investing in their future.

The legislature approved a number of additional Palin administration education requests, including: $350,000 to allow the Galena School District’s boarding school to serve 55 more students; an increase of $150,000 for an autism resource center, for a total of $350,000; and an increase of $50,000 to help rural secondary students transition from school to adult life, for a total of $150,000.

The Legislature approved the administration-supported bill for Alaska to join the Interstate Compact on Educational Opportunity for Military Children. The multi-state agreement makes it easier for military children to transition to public schools when they move to a new state. Although Alaska school districts already do much to help military students make that transition, the interstate compact will provide an opportunity to share effective practices with other states, and it relieves military families of some of the anxiety about moving to a new state.

Governor Sarah Palin praised the Legislature for approving funding for numerous education initiatives and programs she requested, including the $2 million pilot preschool program. “This is great news for Alaska,” said Governor Palin. “Working together, we have made decisions that are going to positively impact the lives of many children. My goal is to try and make sure education funds actually produce measurable improvements in student achievement, particularly for minority and special needs students.”

2007--The Alaska Legislature approves statutory changes which expand the WWAMI program to annually provide a minimum of 20 slots for Alaska residents pursuing a graduate medical education degree, ultimately resulting in Alaska's full complement of WWAMI participants totaling 80 students at any given time.

2008--Governor Palin authorizes the Commission to apply for and administer Alaska's federal College Access Challenge Grant Program aimed at increasing the number of low-income students who are prepared to enter and succeed in postsecondary education.

2009 -- Successfully implemented the College Access Challenge Grant Program, placing two peer mentors in the pilot location of Service High School in Anchorage to assist students with planning for postsecondary education.

Health Care:

Child Support/Cash Medical Support – Senate Bill 96, introduced by the Senate Health and Social Services Committee with the full support of the governor, brings the state of Alaska into federal compliance with a new federal medical-support regulation that requires states to have guidelines addressing how parents will provide for a child’s health care needs through insurance, cash, or both. The legislation prevents the loss of nearly $85 million in federal funds that support children and families.

Anchorage , Alaska - Governor Sarah Palin today signed Senate Bill 4 to continue support for low-income older Alaskans by adopting the Senior Benefits Program.

Apparently you didn't read the part that says low income.

This amounts to the same thing as sponsoring a bill as a senator.

(Juneau , Alaska) Governor Sarah Palin today introduced the Alaska Health Care Transparency Act which will provide more effective tools to help Alaskans access affordable health care, and to ensure our health care system is responsive to changing demographics and market conditions.

Apprenticeship Program

The Alaska Department of Labor and Workforce Development will host its first annual Building Alaska’s Future Apprenticeship Conference Tuesday, April 29 in Anchorage at the Millennium Hotel from 7:30 a.m. to 4:30 p.m. The conference will feature an awards ceremony recognizing outstanding achievements toward building a skilled Alaska workforce through registered apprenticeship.

Registered apprenticeship is a national training system that combines paid learning on-the-job and technical instruction in a skilled occupation enabling employers to apply industry standards that can increase productivity and improve the quality of the workforce.

Governors often assign tasks to others much like Obama assigning projects to his Czars.

Wikipdedia

It should not be assumed that a bill's sponsor actually drafted it. The bill may have been drafted by a staff member, by an interest group, or by others

If she wasn't a woman and he wasn't black, neither of them would be where they are now.

not sure about this statement. are you saying you are sexist and racist?

Yeah... I'm black, but I'm completely racist against Michael Steele...Are you asking this seriously or just trying to play games?

No, I'm saying that neither is qualified in any way, other than the fact that the Republicans needed a woman to counter Hillary and black man to counter Obama. Gotta keep trying to appeal to minorities, even at the cost of alienating most of us.

No, I'm saying that neither is qualified in any way, other than the fact that the Republicans needed a woman to counter Hillary and black man to counter Obama. Gotta keep trying to appeal to minorities, even at the cost of alienating most of us.

Agreed 100%. And I was very offended when McCain choose a woman because he thought that we'd be stupid enough to vote based on sex. Yes, same goes for Steel; I am not black but I get what your saying because it's not about woman, it's not about race, it's about that persons brain & charater period. If I was wrong, why wasn't a woman elected pres long ago...can't think of her name now the one who ran for pres from Forest Hills NY long ago...Geraldine Fa-something, or Jessie Jackson for that matter. He ran he wasn't elected. Why can't the GOP figure that out? Not too bright thats why!

Yeah... I'm black, but I'm completely racist against Michael Steele...Are you asking this seriously or just trying to play games?

No, I was serious. Basing a person's position soley on gender or skin color is sexism and racism.

Comparison would be saying Obama only received 96% of the black vote because he is black. Doesn't give any merit to his credentials (if one believes he has any).

Oh, okay. Then my reply should suffice to answer your question.

No, I was serious. Basing a person's position soley on gender or skin color is sexism and racism.

And exactly what the Mccain camp when they selected Sarah Palin & no doubt what they did w/Steel.

Doubt it. A tough decision must have been to stay as Gov. because you were elected to do it & people depend on you or quit & make more money speaking & signing autographs, which has to be easier than making policies that affect the people of your state.

There are actually people proud to call themselves "dittohead" which means, apparently "I do not need to think for myself."

Palin is good with talking points, but has no thoughts of her own.

Palin doesn't even get the talking points right sometimes... and her interpretation of those talking points is so garbled you need a translator.

SRD-And the talking points are where she is strongest. Go figure. (Well, some people think she is purty too.) :-)

trm - I started collecting Sarah's "Dumbest Quotes" with Daniel Kurtzman's top ten list. My list is now at 60 quotes and growing. . . and these are her 'talking points'!!!!

But Ms. Palin isn't the only Republican who can't speak and can't reason. Do right wingers realize that President Obama is actually trying to help them by insisting on improving education?!?!?

You should post an article. I would love to read it. Improving education would be elitist by Palin supporter standards.