Pope John Paul II "whipped himself in remorse for sins" reveals nun

News Type: Event — Seeded on Mon Nov 23, 2009 9:14 AM EST

Article Source: express.co.uk

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POPE John Paul II regularly whipped himself in a sign of "remorse for his sins", a nun has disclosed.

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Killfile

I was raised Catholic but this sort of Catholicism still gives me the wiggans. The whole corporeal mortification bit ties into a sort of faith and devotion that feels very dangerous and very foreign to me. Perhaps that's the Protestant background of my American upbringing speaking or perhaps it's something else.

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#1 - Mon Nov 23, 2009 9:36 AM EST

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Rainkiss

I'll agree that this probably gives most of us a shudder... However, if that's what he believed, I'm not going to think any less of him for it. He didn't push that it should be done by others while he was in a position to do so, and he (at least arguably) did more good than harm while holding an office of considerable power.

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#1.1 - Mon Nov 23, 2009 9:50 AM EST

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Jarrod-317505

When covering up child rape is involved, I don't care how much good you've done to try to balance it. I wish I could have whipped him a few times.

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#1.2 - Mon Nov 23, 2009 2:13 PM EST

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Rainkiss

There's that, that I hadn't taken into account. Not sure that was his work or that of those below him in the hierarchy, but, buck stops at the top. Point.

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#1.3 - Mon Nov 23, 2009 2:38 PM EST

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Simplistic Reality

I don't know anywhere in the bible where it says "whipping yourself" does anything or makes you more spiritual. Whatever floated his boat I guess. Da Vinci Code movie was the first thing that came to mind as well. Hurting one's self like that is a psychological disorder that treatment is available for it. Maybe he went batty in his old age.

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#2 - Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:17 AM EST

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caroaber

It's a tradition, actually, and it may sound odd to us, but less odd to Spaniards and other Europeans.

@KF: Like you, I was brought up in the faith, but the more I look at it, I think what we Americans were taught was mostly Irish Catholicism, instead of Roman. And there's a hu-uge difference between the two.

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#2.1 - Mon Nov 23, 2009 11:02 AM EST

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Killfile

Ain't that the truth, caroaber.

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#2.2 - Mon Nov 23, 2009 11:11 AM EST

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Simplistic Reality

Interesting. Did not know that. On an off topic note.. Just watched first two seasons of "The Tudors". Shows England / Catholic church how they were back in those days and the start of the reformation of the Church. I couldn't even imagine living in those times. A dark age indeed. Great series and recommend it. Just like Rome and Deadwood. Pretty historically and accurate in every detail as humanly possible.

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#2.3 - Mon Nov 23, 2009 11:46 AM EST

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Jarrod-317505

Is it really? I'm sure I'm the only one who hasn't watched it yet. But everyone seems to love it. Thanks for the tip. I need to get on that.

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#2.4 - Mon Nov 23, 2009 2:43 PM EST

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Simplistic Reality

Just note its unrated and not a family series by any means. 18+.

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#2.5 - Mon Nov 23, 2009 4:40 PM EST

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Andrew-1162039

Just another example of the fallibility of the infallible.

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1 vote

#3 - Mon Nov 23, 2009 3:51 PM EST

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Jarrod-317505

I personally wouldn't trust anybody who claims divine infallibility, even if they did strive for goodness. I think it's a dangerous idea in and of itself and every single pope and cult leader in history is guilty of it.

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#3.1 - Mon Nov 23, 2009 4:27 PM EST

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