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Let Obama Be Obama - An Open Letter To the President of The United States

Fri Dec 18, 2009 12:58 PM EST
By Killfile

We want the man we voted for, not the shadow of the man.
Photo Credit: The White House via Flickr and Creative Commons.

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Mr President,

You have, no doubt, a team of political consultants you've hand-picked to advise you on all manner of policy, message, and strategy issues. Respectfully, sir, you need a new staff.


Look around you. The momentum you gathered in the 2008 race is gone. Your base is despondent; your fellow Democrats on the Hill are running scared; you've even been abandoned by the same party chairman who spoke at your nomination.

Throughout the 2008 race the Republican Party branded you as a radical left-wing idealist. The McCain and Palin campaign hammered away at you, slinging around words like "socialist" and "communist," and yet this country elected you - not in an edge-of-your-seat electoral nailbiter either; you won in a landslide.

I get the "post-partisan" angle, I really do. After eight years of President George W "My Way Or The Highway" Bush I can certainly see the appeal for genuine cooperation in Washington but, if you haven't noticed, that isn't happening. Your party controls the House, a filibuster proof majority in the Senate (at least in theory) and, insofar as I can tell, you've not received a single Republican vote on any legislation of note since January.

Post-Partisan idealism or not, Mr President, it takes two to tango.

It's been one year, Mr President - one year since you were swept into office in a historic repudiation of Republican politics and policies. Certainly you have faced challenges and while your political opponents have cast your supporters as cultists few really expected miracles of you.

But we did expect leadership and a commitment to the ideals upon which you ran and your administration has been sorely lacking in that department.

A year has come and gone, Mr President, and the post-partisan act doesn't seem to be working for you. Democrats, and even Independents, would rather you compromised less and stood up for your principals more often. Your failure to articulate an agenda to Congress has resulted in legislative race for universally acceptable mediocrity of such beige ineffectualness that every compromise away from the supposedly "radical" public option has corresponded to a fall off in public approval of the plan. The American people are with you Mr. President - perhaps more so than you are; they want a public option far moreso than a bi-partisan solution to the healthcare debate.

You have been a centrist, a moderate, a compromiser, and a uniter all without significant success or effect. Perhaps now it's time for Obama to be Obama.

Take a look at your approval ratings, Mr. President. What you're doing right now isn't doing you any favors in 2012. At this rate you may as well start governing like a lame-duck President; it may be the only shot you have at not becoming one.

Sincerely,

Chris "Killfile" Thomas

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Killfile

I can't say I'm a huge fan of the "Open Letter" format but it seems to work for this piece. Besides being interested in what you have to say about the article/letter, I'd love some suggestions for the photo caption.

  • 24 votes
#1 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 1:01 PM EST
neenie1991

Caption: We want the man we voted for, not the shadow of the man.

  • 22 votes
#1.1 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 1:54 PM EST
Pink Iguana

I think thats perfect neenie!

  • 10 votes
#1.2 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 2:10 PM EST
JayMack

Killfile….Great article, the letter format is fine. For the photo caption how about…” Our President – Mr. Half & Half “, the name suits him & the photo shows just ½ of him. Seems he settles for only ½ of a solution to an issue. I will borrow my comment from another seed for it fits here.

Today we have President Obama and the democrats wasting their earned “capital” from an historic election with half baked compromised solutions. On Afghanistan, we will surge but we will also draw down. On torture, we will stop it from this date onward but we will not look back for any wrong doings. We will close Gitmo and its torture related issues but will keep open Bagram and its policies and certain rendition locations. On habeas corpus for detainees, some will, some will not. And the list goes on.

I would add a P.S. to your letter…Mr. President, I want my vote back.

  • 9 votes
#1.3 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 2:35 PM EST
Agent 57

Agreed 100% as well.

time to kick ass and take names, he ran on a good platform and now needs to kick some butt to put it out there, damn the wussies, come out and tell the American people what he plans to do and damnit do it, that's why I voted for him.

  • 12 votes
#1.4 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 3:17 PM EST
jfrank

Caption: We want the man we voted for, not the shadow of the man.

Truth.

  • 11 votes
#1.5 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 4:19 PM EST
JLK-1085511

You got exactly what you voted for. He just lied about what that was. I never like his platform or his experience. But i must ask, when did anyone start believing anything any politician says? And i apply that left and right.....

  • 14 votes
#1.6 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 4:51 PM EST
eriq samson

"Let Obama be Obama" harkens back to the west wing episode "let Bartlett be Bartlett" - and is just as relevant here

  • 5 votes
#1.7 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 5:00 PM EST
landspirit

The desire to unite the country and work within both parties is part of who Obama is. He has his wishes and ideals which I agree are what we elected him for. However, he is trying to pull the country together but the country refuses. If he just plugged through what he feels is needed (which actually is probably exactly what is needed) he would be alienating those who did not vote for him and do not agree with his ideas. However, they are refusing to reach beyond their greedy hands to supportthat which would heal our country. So Obama alienates them no matter what he does.

Obama cannot heal the rift in the country. The Republicans counter him constantly not on the basis of the merit of his ideas, but to destroy anything he tries to do. So I don't know the answer. When people care less about the country and more about whether it is a Republican or Democrat idea or person, the country ends up with nothing but turmoil.

Obama's ideas and plans are great. His desire to have both sides working together is as much a part of who he is as his other ideals. It is not working, because he cannot change the entrenched stupidity all by himself.

  • 15 votes
#1.8 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:01 PM EST
MoCowgirl-1193719

he cannot change the entrenched stupidity all by himself.

Good point.

Health insurance reform is a must, but the millions upon millions given to our reps to defeat it has been a major obstacle to overcome.

The fanactics have aligned themselves with corporate interest to the detriment of this country, and have chosen to vote in reps that can only chant "Drill, baby, drill!", and "If we don't fight them there, we will be fighting them here", and whatever other BS serves the Robber Barons in the United States.

I am not necessarily happy that more has not been accomplished, but on the other hand I did not expect one man to be able to undo in a matter of months all of the corruption that has passed for a government in this country for the better part of 30 years.

Just because there is a Democrat majority does not mean that some of them have not sold their souls to corporations.

I would like to see Obama become more forceful, but I think the voters are going to have to support the POTUS and contact their reps and holler/scream/threaten to replace/etc. if we want to get legislation passed that we desire.

There have been some "promises" kept, and I expect more to follow.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/rulings/promise-kept/

  • 11 votes
#1.9 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:40 PM EST
Omega in Colorado

If history holds any precedent, Obama will lose the majority in one of the Houses in the mid-term elections. This means he has one year to kick @$$ and take names.

Considering the Republicans opinion of him and his agenda he should just force his current majority in both Houses to railroad what he can get thru what he wants. I borrowed these piece of advice from Olbermann's rant the other night.

  • 4 votes
#1.10 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:18 PM EST
Omega in Colorado

Caption for the photo 'The Amazing Vanishing Agenda'.

  • 4 votes
#1.11 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:41 PM EST
David Noah

You did get the man you voted for. The best dog gone speeker you could find. Speech speech, Give us another speech.

  • 6 votes
#1.12 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 9:22 PM EST
Poorworkingman

It takes more than a good man to change the club old boy corrupted government. One man can do so much. Now, we all know how corrupted is our politicians from all sides.

  • 7 votes
#1.13 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:25 PM EST
Simplistic Reality

Chicago style politics not working? Shocked I say. Shocked.

  • 10 votes
#1.14 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:30 PM EST
Chuckthefink

Libs Got Everything They asked for! A Prez That only Talks and Then Takes! To Bad for them the people of AMERICA will make sure this will not happen! GOD BLESS AND MERRY CHRISTMAS!

  • 6 votes
#1.15 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 11:20 PM EST
Pacific Northwest Blogger

People think one man or a single congress can change the many flaws in our society, but refuse to take ownership for that change themselves. The President is doing what he can based on the trappings of government, for change to really take hold, for insurers, banks, investment firms, industry's to alter their behavior it takes people willing to do without their services and vote with their wallets, take to the streets and protest every day, that isn't happening. So what can you expect from the President when the people that voted for change, aren't willing to back up that message?

In the 1960's and 1970's, people were on campuses every day protesting, on the streets every day protesting, people worked to help each other. People today aren't willing to stand up and make a difference, but they're all too willing to sit at their desk and type a letter. It's going to take more than a letter or petition to get the change you felt you deserved by voting for a man with a slogan. It takes your time and effort to make that change happen.

So when you come down on the President or scapegoat his chief of staff or one of the Democrats you don't feel is living up to the liberal ideal - look in the mirror, have you made a sign, have you walked to that representatives office and protested day after day after day - or were you one of those that felt writing a letter was enough?

Don't like big banks, don't use them. Don't like the credit card companies, don't use them. Don't like insurers, form a collective of like minded people and self insure. Don't like big oil, do you even own a bike?

Stop looking to blame others for the problems of this world. You make the difference. Change starts with you. The President has mentioned this time and time again, but when it comes down to people taking to the streets to provide the pressure needed to change, all we see in the media comes from the right or the extreme far right. Stop behaving like others will solve your problems, when you don't really do what it takes to support them in making the change.

  • 13 votes
#1.16 - Sat Dec 19, 2009 9:52 AM EST
Mark-337609

I agree with some parts of this letter and I disagree with other parts and in particular the conclusion it is trying to reach.

First, I would not say that Obama won by a landslide, winning by a 6 or 7 % margin is pretty small when you consider that there were many people who traditionally voted more conservative that voted for Obama which was characterized by most as a vote against Bush rather than a vote for Obama.

Second, yes Obama's approval ratings have plummeted, but its not because he is failing with his bi-partisan approach, it is because he is failing at promoting an agenda that is much more liberal than the platform on which he campaigned. Many of those conservative leaning people that voted for Obama voted for change and the change they want is a move towards the center and a President that would represent all Americans, not just those that voted for him.

Third, I would not say that Obama has really tried a bi-partisan approach, which is another reason his popularity is plummeting. If the President really wants bi-partisanship then he needs to try to find common ground and be willing to compromise. Yes, slightly more than half of Americans elected the anti-Bush, but just slightly less did not. The country is pretty much down the middle, so shouldn't our politicians try to govern from the center? Instead, Obama has promoted a healthcare package that is extremely liberal and does not contain a single material element that is supported by conservatives. Why do no conservatives vote for it, because there is nothing that they like about it. Obama has also vilianized businesses and "evil corporations" and referred to some international provisions in the tax law as "loopholes" (my definition of a loophole is the use of the law in a way that was not intended, well that is not the case here, these provisions in the tax law are functioning exactly as intended).

Fourth, I do not agree that most people want the public option. You cite the President's approval rating, which according to at least one poll has fallen below 50%) but then you fail to acknowledge that polls are starting to show that most people would favor the status quo to the existing healthcare "reform" provisions.

  • 3 votes
#1.17 - Sat Dec 19, 2009 11:15 AM EST
jschurchin

Chicago style politics not working? Shocked I say. Shocked.

Chicago style politics works real well. Put the key in the ignition, turn, goodbye.

D.C. DOESN'T practice Chicago style politics.

    #1.18 - Sat Dec 19, 2009 12:29 PM EST
    OneNativeSon

    Great Killfile... I would almost swear that your open letter came from my own keyboard.

    Mark, that (1.17) is your POV but there is another possibility.

    First I'd say to heck with talking about any "landslide". The President won. Period. There was a recent POTUS that won the election with a negativehalf percentage point in popular vote and less than a seven percent victory in electoral college. That slim victory didn't stop President Bush, Republicans, and Conservative Democrats from acting like the BMOC. I think many voted against Republicans as more a vote against their failed policies and rigid absolutist ideologies. Policies and ideologies that strayed far from the safe governing that was expected from them.

    Second. I would feel better for having a Democrat as POTUS if he'd not seek to appease these ideologues but rather work tirelessly to get around them. I'd say that the fall off in confidence is more from his lack of fight than from some "failed bipartisan approach". A 24/7 drumbeat of propaganda from the right coupled to a media that fails miserably, through some bizarre "American Idol" notion of fairness and an overwhelming desire for increased ratings by whatever means possible, to keep truth pre-eminent (think "death panels".. a patently ridiculous notion but one they spend hours discussing because a loud vehement minority). Such is their blind intent upon "fairness" that if a large percentage of Americans felt the world was flat CNN and others would spend endless hours discussing the possibility of flatness instead of trying to defeat such a patent idiocy. A popularity contest culture has ensued. Instead of meeting the fight head on President Obama tried too hard to meet those who would seek his failure and the failure of anyone else -at any cost- who don't act upon their views. I don't see his policies as too liberal because I've long since rejected the Republican/Conservative definition of conservative and liberal. That anything they don't like is automatically labelled as liberal doesn't make it so. One example is the health care issue. I happen to believe that a strong health care system is a necessary and foundational strength for our nation and that any true conservative would seek to repair the foundation when dangerous cracks become apparent. Instead we see fear mongering and a reactionary clinging to some notion that healthcare today is somehow "free market". That notion is ridiculous. That the dollar almighty might have to take a back seat to fixing healthcare doesn't make me react with fear, hatred, and demagoguery.. it makes me want to fix it. In point of fact I'd rather fix the foundation than have the house wash away just to keep the old failing system in place. Regarding this and other issues most of all; that Republicans give dire predictions doesn't sway me as much as their poor track record in prognostication.

    Thirdly. I'd say the President and Congress have tried too hard and too often to seek not bipartisanship (as if that were even remotely possible with Conservatives and Republicans as they behave today) but rather blind accomodation and open appeasement. Giving up moral high ground and important issues to these rightists in our nation in grandiose and vain attempts to avoid any fight; fights that those same rightists would seemingly never seek to avoid.

    • 3 votes
    #1.19 - Sat Dec 19, 2009 12:30 PM EST
    OneNativeSon

    fourthly.

    The result of dragging the issue out and a constant chorus of "communism", "socialism", "nazism", etc, et al without active voiciferous answer is predictable. Republican memos have shown that this was their game plan and we've known that such things work since Goebbels pioneered the science of propaganda.

    Even against this constant tide of negativism coming from obstructionists enough people can see through it to still favor a public option. They don't see public roads, electrical grids, and waterworks as "socialism". They don't consider our strong national defense as some communistic corruption of the "strong militia" that our founding fathers envisioned defending our nation. So the constant cry that using our national structure of government to fix healthcare equals communism, socialism, or nazism by caveat simply falls flat. There are real jobs for our government to do. That our government may have it's faults is not at issue... but ours is supposed to be a government of citizens and it fails only when we fail in our duties as such. There are things our government can and should do - such as providing for the general welfare of it's citizens; this is something our form of government was designed to do when needed. Republicans like Eisenhower, Teddy Roosevelt, and Abraham Lincoln used to see and believe in this fact... why can't those that have taken the party over today, unless it's used to promote their personal faith's pre-eminence, not see it?

    • 4 votes
    #1.20 - Sat Dec 19, 2009 12:55 PM EST
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    neenie1991

    Well said, (as usual). You've got to stop doing that! No more capitulating and efforts at across the aisle compromise. That ship has sailed. (Sunk?) It seems like he has become his own obstructionist. He needs to wipe that grin off his face and re-read his inauguration speech, among others, before it becomes rhetoric.

    • 7 votes
    Reply#2 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 1:07 PM EST
    Profchaos

    No more capitulating and efforts at across the aisle compromise.

    What efforts? On his major domestic policy he has let congress take the lead and does not admonish them for their lack of bi-partisanship. He is not being a leader when he lets the kids squabble as he is doing. oh wait, he rails against the minority party... yeah, that's effective leadership.

    Plus his whole "I won" attitude coupled with Pelosi's "we can do it without repubs" attitude that started after the election make any real attempts at crossing aisle (which haven't really happened) seem less than sincere.

    Everything Obama has said is rhetoric. Really, look at what he says and what he does and you will find they are two different things. Most recent example was about not wanting to give money to fat cats after doing just that. other examples include not wanting to run banks or car companies but doing just that. not deserving the peace prize but taking it anyway. and on and on and on.

    • 10 votes
    #2.1 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 5:08 PM EST
    David Noah

    He needs to wipe that grin off his face and re-read his inauguration speech, among others, before it becomes rhetoric.

    Exactly. He needs to go back to the only thing he knows how to do well. Speech, speech, give us another speach.

    • 3 votes
    #2.2 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 9:24 PM EST
    thirdfeast

    Here's a must read that hits the nail on the head.

    What's taken place in the year since Obama won the presidency has turned out to be one of the most dramatic political about-faces in our history. Elected in the midst of a crushing economic crisis brought on by a decade of orgiastic deregulation and unchecked greed, Obama had a clear mandate to rein in Wall Street and remake the entire structure of the American economy. What he did instead was ship even his most marginally progressive campaign advisers off to various bureaucratic Siberias, while packing the key economic positions in his White House with the very people who caused the crisis in the first place. This new team of bubble-fattened ex-bankers and laissez-faire intellectuals then proceeded to sell us all out, instituting a massive, trickle-up bailout and systematically gutting regulatory reform from the inside.

    *************

    ......But come November 5th, both were banished from Obama's inner circle — and replaced with a group of Wall Street bankers. Leading the search for the president's new economic team was his close friend and Harvard Law classmate Michael Froman, a high-ranking executive at Citigroup. During the campaign, Froman had emerged as one of Obama's biggest fundraisers, bundling $200,000 in contributions and introducing the candidate to a host of heavy hitters — chief among them his mentor Bob Rubin, the former co-chairman of Goldman Sachs who served as Treasury secretary under Bill Clinton. Froman had served as chief of staff to Rubin at Treasury, and had followed his boss when Rubin left the Clinton administration to serve as a senior counselor to Citigroup (a massive new financial conglomerate created by deregulatory moves pushed through by Rubin himself).

    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/31234647/obamas_big_sellout

    • 5 votes
    #2.3 - Sat Dec 19, 2009 11:15 AM EST
    James Andre

    I wonder when people will wake up.

    All this complaining about what Obama hasn't done. What he has done is an excellent job. He is an administrator, not a legislator, and it's about time we had a President that put responsibilities where they belong, in this case with Congress and the American people.

    I keep seeing people talking about 'since the campaign.' Just one question: are you knocking on doors, donating, writing letters, and making phone calls like you did during the campaign? If not, how can you have the nerve to complain?

    • 7 votes
    #2.4 - Sat Dec 19, 2009 11:53 AM EST
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    James Acuna

    Great post KF - 100% agreement.

    Damn the torpedoes, full steam ahead. Let them chips fall where they may.

    • 9 votes
    Reply#3 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 1:33 PM EST
    MrMajek

    I completely agree. And, to those stuck on a single issue that you are whining that he isn't paying you enough attention....let the man have an anniversary before you claim his year or full presidency was a failure. There are over 100 proposals waiting for attention by congress. One way or another, once we are past this DAMMED (and damned) healthcare bit, the goverment might start working again.

    • 6 votes
    Reply#4 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 1:36 PM EST
    Borncorn

    If I wanted a pragmatic politician with no balls, I would have voted for Hillary. I thought we elected a man of principle. I supported Obama with small internet donations. In retrospect that was obviously a mistake. I am a liberal independent looking for a new candidate.

    • 4 votes
    Reply#5 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 1:46 PM EST
    Simplistic Reality

    Actually.. Hillary has more balls then Obama. That much is obvious.

    Good article Killfile.

    • 9 votes
    #5.1 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:01 PM EST
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    Steve Watts

    Yeah, I think the post-partisan ship has sailed. It seems like Obama has been trying very hard to abide by his position of reaching across the aisle, but nothing seems to be enough for the Republicans. Despite being in the minority, despite being voted out in a landslide, despite their best hopes and dreams being pinned on a woman who's more-or-less a living joke... despite all of that, a "bipartisan" bill to them seems to mean getting their way. Any less than that will result in divisive name-calling, hyperbolic Hitler references, misguided Tea Party protests, and more.

    It's far past time for Obama to start playing hardball. He and the Democrats took it, and they're quickly squandering their chances for real reform by trying to be all nicey-nice. At this point, the Republicans know all they have to do is stall. Their plan seems to be: ignore the wishes of the public, create enough noise to make a vocal minority seem relevant, and wait for the next election cycle. Then, when no changes have been enacted due to their own foot-dragging, they can force the Democrats to lose some seats based on not living up to their campaign promises.

    And just like that, the Democrats will lose their supermajority, possibly their majority, and the onus put on them by the American people. Health care reform will fail, yet again, and lobbyists' interests will be protected. Congratulations, conservatives, you're what's wrong with government.

    Obama needs to take the gloves off to tackle this kind of political maneuvering. His current strategy just isn't working.

    • 19 votes
    Reply#6 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 1:48 PM EST
    landspirit

    Obama needs to take the gloves off to tackle this kind of political maneuvering. His current strategy just isn't working

    So many good points in your comment. It as does the article really lies bare so succinctly the situation. Obama's presence to me has never been that of a charging bull. I think his intellect will afford him the ability to see the need. However, he won't be a charging bull running everywhere trying to hit the red cloth. His intellect will help him move fast and strong where it is needed. He will be attacked even more vehemently than he is now, but his path is straight, true and desperately needed.

    And with the straights our country is in, I think that, means more. I imagine though it is probably just as hard to have to play the stern father with a bunch of idiotic childish adults as it is to understand why they act this way creating the need in the first place.

    Congratulations, conservatives, you're what's wrong with government

    and more...

    • 5 votes
    #6.1 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:39 PM EST
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    Pink Iguana

    I have become very disappointed. I wish he would knock some heads together. I keep thinking about how I felt after 9-11. I didn't vote for Bush, but I had so much hope he would do all the right things for our country. That he REALLY had the country's best interest at heart. I truly believed it, and I was wrong. That knowledge broke my heart.

    I keep asking myself if I have been hoodwinked again. I voted for Obama and he is the first winning President I have voted for in 30+ years of voting. I thought my country would get something better in HCR than what is working its way through the Senate. I thought he would be stronger and tougher than this. This whole debacle just make America look so cheap and uncaring. We refuse to take care of our own. Heartbreaking.

    Please Mr. President, don't break my heart again. I don't think I could stand it.

    • 9 votes
    Reply#7 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 1:53 PM EST
    Burlap Mudflap

    Kill

    Well said Bravo!

    • 5 votes
    Reply#8 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 2:01 PM EST
    Sabastian Palpatine

    Killfile, I think that when I first joined Newsvine, you were one of the first members that I requested friendship status with. Now, more than then, I know why. It's like you've taken my thoughts and wrote a letter to Obama. Thanks.

    This in one sentence says it all...

    "...Post-Partisan idealism or not, Mr President, it takes two to tango..."

    I saw this coming a mile away. The GOP has never and will never be interested in cooperation. As long as there is a potential health care reform bill to vote on there will be no votes for it from the Republicans regardless of what compromises are made. How do you compromise with someone who is only interested in your personal failure? The whole premise is highly illogical and counter productive.

    "....A year has come and gone, Mr President, and the post-partisan act doesn't seem to be working for you. Democrats, and even Independents, would rather you compromised less and stood up for your principals more often...."

    In regards to the current polls, I agree that the level of support for the current bill being debated is decreasing partly because people such as myself and Howard Dean understand that no single payer and no public option means no true health care reform. We would rather there be no bill at all than pass this piece of faux reform (which is what the GOP is betting on).

    If Obama wants re-election then he would be wise to not ignore the very people who voted for "change", not "compromise". It's duly noted that he has made an effort to stop the partisan games and the Republicans have not recipricated. The majority of America spoke in November 2008, it's time for Obama to decisively lead his party and this nation.

    • 14 votes
    Reply#9 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 2:38 PM EST
    landspirit

    Sabastian..

    it's time for Obama to decisively lead his party and this nation.

    So well said.

    • 1 vote
    #9.1 - Sat Dec 19, 2009 12:46 PM EST
    Poorworkingman

    The problem is you can not run before you can even stand up and learn how to walk. At least (I think he helps) a lot of people (to) benefit out of this situation. He doesn't have Hitlership or dictatorship like the others when the leader say NO and everybody say no. Now, who is Hitler, etc......

      #9.2 - Sat Dec 19, 2009 2:55 PM EST
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      TheyreAllCrooks

      Killfile, great article. I've been saying since Obama took office that he should have told Congress "just get me 51 votes" screw bipartisianship...the GOP wants no part of that!

      We need more people in Congress and our President to be more like this guy from Ireland....this is absolutely freakin AWESOME! (contains profanity)

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkJLWx6H7Gs

      • 4 votes
      Reply#10 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 3:21 PM EST
      oldfogey

      Agree completely. Franken's handling of Lieberman leaves me considering Al for President.

      • 14 votes
      Reply#11 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 3:43 PM EST
      Budinski

      That is a scary thought

      • 4 votes
      #11.1 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 3:53 PM EST
      Sabastian Palpatine

      That was awesome!

      Franken: I'm good enough, smart enough and doggon-it in my capacity as a Senator from Minnesota, I object!

      Lieberman: "Really. OK. I don't take it personally."

      LOL....Lieberman, you should take it personally. You've just been punked, Franken style!!!

      • 7 votes
      #11.2 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 3:58 PM EST
      Poorworkingman

      SB, and don't forget his tone how he said it. We are not stupid and we can tell that's kind of tone. These old boy club members seem to forget that we are watching them like a hawk. If they think this is still 20th century. That means their time is OVER.

      • 1 vote
      #11.3 - Sat Dec 19, 2009 3:03 PM EST
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      Budinski

      Good letter KF,

      The only problem is that if no one (His chosen team and those he owes) tells him what to do.. he hasn't a clue. You are urging him to "Be Obama" He's in the Big game now and without direction from the puppet masters ... he just stutters.

      The American people are with you Mr. President - perhaps more so than you are;

      That would be 1/2 of the American people and growing smaller by the minute.

      • 3 votes
      Reply#12 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 3:52 PM EST
      lisaed

      killfile---I agree with the substance of your letter. However, Obama said in recent interviews he doesn't concern himself with his poll numbers. He said he'd figured (I think it was 60 Minutes) he'd start declining 6 months in. Wonder why? Is that how long he figured it would take for us to catch on to his true policy goals for this country? I do take issue only with your blaming the GOP for any of his failures. And although few and far beteween he win a few key GOP votes---Specter/Snowe/Collins on failed stimulus; Cao in House healthcare vote; and Snowe to get Baucus bill out of committee. (And yes, I'm keeping track---not too hard to do). But I digress...the American people have far more pressing concerns like the economy and jobs---than things such as the junk healthcare bill in the senate--which I believe even you would agree is WORSE than the status quo and the whole climate/cap and tax debacle. That that bill sucks such wind is indeed a failure of this president to take leadership on a major policy initiative. He'll get a damned bil and he'll sign it as some major victory. But it's not. He's got NO clue on how to prioritize.

      • 10 votes
      Reply#13 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 4:08 PM EST
      Steve Watts

      He said he'd figured (I think it was 60 Minutes) he'd start declining 6 months in. Wonder why? Is that how long he figured it would take for us to catch on to his true policy goals for this country?

      I would assume because pretty much every President starts declining sometime in the first year, and he knew his poll numbers were riding higher than average on a wave of good publicity. But sure, see it through the lens of cynicism in which Obama cackles in a darkened room surrounded by hooded figures. Don't let reality stop you.

      • 11 votes
      #13.1 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 4:15 PM EST
      lisaed

      Steve---sure decline is inevitable......but this? Pretty bad.......

      http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/12/08/obamas-percent-approval-lowest-president-point/

      • 7 votes
      #13.2 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 4:26 PM EST
      Steve Watts

      Considering that his approval rating rebounded almost instantly and now stands at 52%, I think his press secretary was right not to worry over it too much. My point isn't whether he should have experienced such a sharp drop. My point is that this...

      Is that how long he figured it would take for us to catch on to his true policy goals for this country?

      ... makes you sound like you're wearing a tinfoil hat. Anytime you start spouting nonsense about "true policy goals" you put yourself in league with the nut jobs who aren't worth listening to. The economy is bad, it's a divisive political time, and his approval rating fell. He wasn't surprised by that fact. Somehow taking that information and concluding that he knew he'd be "caught" is just insane.

      • 15 votes
      #13.3 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 4:37 PM EST
      lisaed

      The economy is bad

      Steve--yes, and it's his now.

      • 7 votes
      #13.4 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 4:53 PM EST
      LonoKemp

      delete me.

        #13.5 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:02 PM EST
        Andy-827327

        A year has come and gone, Mr President, and the post-partisan act doesn't seem to be working for you.

        I must have missed the "post partisan act" that Obama has made to the Republicans, unless you count him saying "I won" as a post partisan overture.

        Can anyone list all the examples (and provide the corresponding links) of Obama's or the House & Senate Democrats, reaching across the isle?

        • 4 votes
        #13.6 - Sat Dec 19, 2009 12:55 AM EST
        Killfile

        Can anyone list all the examples (and provide the corresponding links) of Obama's or the House & Senate Democrats, reaching across the isle?

        Is healthcare a single payer universal program? No? I wonder why...

        Was the stimulus 40% Tax Cuts? Yea? I wonder why...

        The legislative record doesn't support your presumption. If Obama is a hyper-partisan ultra-leftist who takes no prisoners then where's the European Style social reforms? Where's the White House's voice in the Healthcare debate?

        • 4 votes
        #13.7 - Sat Dec 19, 2009 5:35 PM EST
        Simplistic Reality

        where's the European Style social reforms? Where's the White House's voice in the Healthcare debate?

        Because big pharma and insurance companies don't want those reforms. They are fueled by greed and profit. Also too many damn lobbyists are paying off our elected officials and influencing the White House to not do a good plan. If big pharma and insurance companies back a health care reform plan.... then its pretty safe to say it isn't going to be good for the American people. Like I keep saying... model the system off of Germany's.

        • 3 votes
        #13.8 - Sat Dec 19, 2009 6:13 PM EST
        Andy-827327

        Is healthcare a single payer universal program? No? I wonder why...

        Obama through Reid & Pelosi is having to compromise on single payer and abortion funding with Democrats, not Republicans to get the 60 votes. They just bought off Nelson, last time I checked he was a Democrat.

        Was the stimulus 40% Tax Cuts? Yea? I wonder why...

        And what input did Republicans have in the porkulas bill?...none thats why only three (now two) Republicans in both the House and Senate voted for it...very post partisan LMAO.

        And where are your citations to back up your "opinions"? Not that I'm surprised you didn't offer any, here are mine.

        Six months into the president’s term, you don’t read much about this post-partisan future anymore. It may be because on almost every big-ticket legislative item (the stimulus, climate change, and now health care), Mr. Obama has been pushing a highly ideological agenda with little (and in some cases zero) support from across the aisle. Yet far from stating the obvious—that sitting in the Oval Office is a very partisan president—the press corps is allowing Mr. Obama to evade the issue by coming up with novel redefinitions.

        The redefinition started during the stimulus debate, but it really picked up steam late last month with David Axelrod’s appearance on ABC’s “This Week.” There the president’s chief strategist explained that a bill didn’t need Republican votes to be “bipartisan”; it was enough if Republican “ideas” were included. A few days earlier, Rahm Emanuel had offered reporters another redefinition, suggesting that a bill was bipartisan if people merely “saw the president trying” to get Republicans on board.

        http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203946904574301103588765812.html

        July 14 (Bloomberg) -- President Barack Obama may rely only on Democrats to push health-care legislation through the U.S. Congress if Republican opposition doesn’t yield soon, two of the president’s top advisers said.

        “Ultimately, this is not about a process, it’s about results,” David Axelrod, Obama’s senior political strategist, said during an interview in his White House office. “If we’re going to get this thing done, obviously time is a-wasting.”

        http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a4.kYDWV9erc

        • 2 votes
        #13.9 - Sat Dec 19, 2009 6:29 PM EST
        lisaed

        They just bought off Nelson, last time I checked he was a Democrat.

        Andy---yes, with some sweet medicaid funding for Nebraska costing we the taxpayers big time.......who will bail out my state I wonder? It is TIME FOR moderate democrats in the House and Senate to be KICKED OUT of office by we the people. They cannot be trusted to standup against the labor left/big govt Obama agenda. I must say though I'm so very proud of Olympia Snowe for saying NO GO to Reid's Bill.....even I was surprised by that. I slammed her good firing off a letter to her when she voted to take the Baucus bill out of committee. I'm glad to see rino or no that she's finally listening to all of us who were so outraged by that. I'll have to send her a nice happy holidays note and encourage her to keep up the good fight!

        • 2 votes
        #13.10 - Mon Dec 21, 2009 3:15 PM EST
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        PANeal

        "You have been a centrist, a moderate, a compromiser, and a uniter all without significant success or effect"

        I can't agree that the last year has been without significant success or effect. Progress has been made on every front. The fruits of statesmenship require time and patience to see the final result.

        After all the yelling and screaming the opposition and the base have been doing, I don't think now is the time for the President to take the bull by the horns and jerk the country into a new direction. I think it is time to pass health care reform, take a deep breath, enjoy the holidays, and see where the new year takes us. When the inititiatives he has put into motion reach completion, the popularity polls will rebound.

        President Obama has been busy investing his political capital, not spending it. I think there are lots of interesting surprises and successes waiting for us.

        • 7 votes
        Reply#14 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 4:19 PM EST
        dwillie

        I too would prefer the President to be more forceful, Killfile. More assertive. More explicit about his goals and more aggressive with his agenda. But I think that your analysis downplays some realities. For sure, republicans have proven themselves to be blatant enemies of American progress. As much as George Wallace standing in front of the schoolhouse door, today's republican party is morally, ethically and intellectually bankrupt and demonstrably beholden to the most malevolent of special interests. But as you said, democrats have 60 seats in the Senate so clearly, the republicans should be inconsequential - the proverbial pile of excrement in the middle of the sidewalk that you simply step over. I'm sure that the President feels quite comfortable that all efforts to reach across the aisle have been exhausted and would be happy to push through full single payer/universal coverage. The problem, Killfile, is the democrats; at least six of them who lack the courage to be on the right side of history. The reality is that the good guys need 60 votes to stop a filibuster and certain senators - democratic & independent - have decided that brinksmanship is the order of the day. Its the democrats in the Senate that are standing in the way of progress, not the President. Obama's outreach to centrist republicans would not be necessary if he could count on Senate democrats, but he can't. This scenario will play out with the entirety of the President's agenda (Cap & Trade, consumer financial protection, wall street reform, immigration reform, civil rights for LGBT, etc.).

        I believe that the all-or-nothing approach advocated by Gov. Dean and other progressives is self-defeating. I am personally in favor of single payer/universal coverage where there is one set of expenses, one set of medical claims, one set of back office infrastructure and one set of management, the cost of which is spread out amongst all citizens, thus minimizing cost and maximizing coverage. While we have not gone far enough, we have gone too far to start over again from scratch. Further, I note a distinct desire on the part of progressives to somehow punish the President at the polls in 2010 and in 2012 which strikes me as a repeat of the self-destructive thinking that put George Bush into office and threw America backwards.

        To our collective detriment, progressives are aiming the shotguns in the wrong direction and will only wind up blowing their feet off. The battle is at the voting booth in the legislative districts, not in the White House. The President said himself that the fight wasn't over on November 4th of last year. The battle is ongoing and ground-based in the legislative districts - particularly in those "purple" states. If progressives aren't up for that, then all we will do is usher in another era of feckless republican idiocy.

        • 15 votes
        Reply#15 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 4:32 PM EST
        Paying Attention

        dwillie, good comment.

        President Obama, being who he is, has had to learn how to maneuver around obstacles rather than butt heads. I believe his accomplishments show that he has mastered this capability.

        Many of us have not had to acquire this ability, do not understand it, and thus lack patience. I think this ability is what is disconcerting to his adversaries and is, quite possibly, what many of his supporters have forgotten or perhaps never recognized as an advantage.

        Impatient gardeners put little food on the table. I will patient a while longer.

        • 8 votes
        #15.1 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:37 PM EST
        Carol-99

        More explicit about his goals and more aggressive with his agenda.

        dwillie, I have been disappointed that he has not been more specific about what he wants in health care reform, among other things.

        I am personally in favor of single payer/universal coverage where there is one set of expenses, one set of medical claims, one set of back office infrastructure and one set of management, the cost of which is spread out amongst all citizens, thus minimizing cost and maximizing coverage. While we have not gone far enough, we have gone too far to start over again from scratch.

        Do you think that the current bills that are being discussed will lead to single payor coverage?

        • 1 vote
        #15.2 - Sat Dec 19, 2009 1:55 AM EST
        dwillie

        Eventually, perhaps. I do believe that single payer is slightly closer with the current bills than without them (the House version more than the Senate). But even if that is not the case, denying coverage because of pre-existing conditions and other provisions in the legislation are still worthwhile. Beyond that, it is still on us. We know for an absolute fact that the republican party will not even consider single payer and neither will certain democrats. As long as they are in office, single payer will be an dream deferred. So to have single payer, then our fellow Americans who are the constituents of those legislators need to be convinced that single payer is better.

        I am dismayed by the handwringing on the part of progressives, so despondent over the slow pace of or lack of "change" that they would rather sacrifice absolutely any and all gains made so far and go back to scratch. Last time I looked, change required sustained effort over time - a lot longer time than one quarter of one presidential term. And it won't happen at all if those who want it simply throw their hands up, take their ball and go home. It is that lack of sustained determination, that lack of patience, that lack of diligence that malevolent special interests count on. Lobbyists are paid to fight so they'll fight as long as they get paid. As long as we keep rewarding creeps like Joe Lieberman with continued employment, even as he carries the water for private insurance interests, the lobbyists have someone to deal with and the American people are completely shut out of the dialogue.

        I too have been disappointed by the President's reticence to be more out front on his domestic agenda. Perhaps it is a personality quirk. I suspect, however that there is a larger strategy at work and that health care legislation is simply one component of a larger agenda. There is still so much more to do. But if the despondency among the base compels them to sit on their hands in 2010 and 2012, we will see the return of the troglodytes with potentially far greater negative consequences than we've experienced to date. Frankly, I'm eager to see what the President does when he doesn't actually have to run for election again.

        • 4 votes
        #15.3 - Sat Dec 19, 2009 11:06 AM EST
        Carol-99

        Last time I looked, change required sustained effort over time - a lot longer time than one quarter of one presidential term. And it won't happen at all if those who want it simply throw their hands up, take their ball and go home. It is that lack of sustained determination, that lack of patience, that lack of diligence that malevolent special interests count on.

        Great points. I too think that preventing insurance companies from denying coverage based on pre-existing conditions is definitely progress.

        • 3 votes
        #15.4 - Sat Dec 19, 2009 6:08 PM EST
        Reply
        Scotty-1083859

        Too bad, Killfile.

        Your president is already a lame duck.

        Probably has something to do with all that transparency he promised and never delivered.

        I wonder if Obama ever had a day when he awoke and proclaimed, "Today, I will at least try to be honest."

        I doubt it.

        • 11 votes
        Reply#16 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 4:33 PM EST
        hww

        Dear Mr. President,

        You are living proof that it don't matter how bad things are it can always get worse.

        2010 & 2012 can't come soon enough!

        • 4 votes
        #16.1 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:06 PM EST
        Reply
        Kathleen McKenzie

        Oh, sure, spend five minutes with nice talk, then take the gloves off and start smacking heads! That's sure to make everyone cooperative, calm and happy. In the long reach of history, a year is nothing, and I for one am happy with the President's approach.

        • 4 votes
        Reply#17 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 5:01 PM EST
        Britlassy

        and I for one am happy with the President's approach.

        you have to be joking!!!!

        • 5 votes
        Reply#18 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 5:08 PM EST
        Simplistic Reality

        Is it April 1st already?

        • 5 votes
        #18.1 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:03 PM EST
        Lkessler

        SR wrote: Is it April 1st already?

        Not even close, my friend. Not even close.

        • 3 votes
        #18.2 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:16 PM EST
        Kathleen McKenzie

        Not joking, just old enough to realize things take time and knocking heads together won't hurry anything.

        "Put up in a place where it's easy to see,

        The cryptic admonishment: T T T.

        When you feel how depressingly slowly you climb,

        It's well to remember that Things Take Time."

        Written by someone named Piet Hein, I think.

        • 5 votes
        #18.3 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:20 PM EST
        Carol-99

        Kathleen, I think that too many people expected instant results. Someone on Newsvine said that the other day.

        • 5 votes
        #18.4 - Sat Dec 19, 2009 2:01 AM EST
        Britlassy

        Kathleen, I think that too many people expected instant results. Someone on Newsvine said that the other day

        OH puleeeeeeeeeese...

        Not one mature, intelligent person would be expecting a Miraculous fix on the issues that were already present when He took office.

        However, there has been a down-slide and a huge difference of his promises in the campaign, and his actions in office.

        I don't think people expected the Islamic connections to become so prevalent, I do not think they expected in SUCH a recession, to have a President gallivanting all over Europe. I don't think they( the NON-supporters) expected a FLady that was so arrogant and cold.

        I don't think they expected to ADD to the troops in the war, we expected to have them coming home. and letting them sort out their mess.

        We did not expect the breach of protocol, similar to back-wood hicks, but when one has a 26 yr old protocol adviser, wellllllllllllllll.....................

        Nor did we expect Obama to bow to a Islamic King, or NOT bow to the Japan properly, or turn the AF-One into a Bad version of the European Vacation Farce.....

        WE did expect him to stay in the USA to put his money and actions where his mouth is, by putting the unemployed to work, and help the homeless, (not serve a meal, flaunting 500.00 pair of shoes) or have the food run out at the shelters giving out turkeys, on Thanksgiving.

        That is not even mentioning the political agenda's that have had people resign when he took office, availing him the right to put in those that share his agenda.

        So instant results?

        No

        But we did not expect it to turn into an ongoing trainwreck picking up speed.

        • 4 votes
        #18.5 - Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:15 PM EST
        Reply
        Lampell

        Perhaps some of you have forgotten that we have a legislative branch, they pass the laws in this country. To ask a President to bang heads would be counterproductive, how much more pressure could he put on members of his own party in Congress. He has already given god knows how many pep talks to them. Pragmatism rules which is why Clinton did a good job once his party wasnt in control of Congress. I for one dont expect much of a President, any President and to that end I am not disspapointed:)

        • 5 votes
        Reply#19 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 5:14 PM EST
        DScott Anthony

        obama is the leader of the democratic party, and has a majority in both houses of congress. Nice of you to excuse his complete LACK of leadership as a virtue, but the american people see through that rhetoric. obama should have stuck with handing out sandwiches as a community organizer. He has zero leadership, executive or legislative skills and is a complete failure as president.

        • 9 votes
        #19.1 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:32 PM EST
        Reply
        Laura-400055

        Agreed. I was discussing this very thing with fellow supporters of Obama. He is being way too nice. I also said that at the rate he is going...he IS already a lame duck president. I can understand wanting to achieve bipartisanship...but not at the expense of being a total sell out.

        • 5 votes
        Reply#20 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 5:28 PM EST
        Earl W

        I agree, but the other half of the issue is that corporations, and elitists are getting a great deal from him very quickly, and we get nothing. Its like they have all the representation, and we dont even matter.

        Its as if we are deliberatly being deprived. How can so many things occur where we consistantly lose?

        • 3 votes
        Reply#21 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 5:38 PM EST
        R. Donald Snyder

        I have lost all respect I had for Barack, which was a lot. His lack of real leadership is why this health care bill sucks so badly and (if it shows up on his desk as it's coming out of the Senate) it should be vetoed. Sadly though it would seem that he'd sign it and then try to claim some sort of victory. This is not the Barack I voted for and unless he does an about face I won't be voting for him again. He's losing the base and so far deservedly so.

        • 9 votes
        Reply#22 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:11 PM EST
        DScott Anthony

        Hate to say I told you so... but I was shouted down very loudly on nv in july 2008 for saying obama was an empty shirt -- unprincipled and with no leadership abilities.

        • 1 vote
        #22.1 - Sat Dec 19, 2009 7:33 AM EST
        Laura-400055

        DScott: Unfortunately....he is not the only one who is an empty shirt. I think after experiencing so many Presidents over the decades, I have finally come to realize that the people actually running Washington and making the decisions are the criminals sitting in the Congress and Senate. The President is pretty much a figure head who provides "we the people" with the illusion that our votes really matter....they don't.

        • 2 votes
        #22.2 - Sat Dec 19, 2009 2:39 PM EST
        Britlassy

        I have lost all respect I had for Barack, which was a lot. His lack of real leadership is why this health care bill sucks so badly and (if it shows up on his desk as it's coming out of the Senate) it should be vetoed. Sadly though it would seem that he'd sign it and then try to claim some sort of victory. This is not the Barack I voted for and unless he does an about face I won't be voting for him again. He's losing the base and so far deservedly so.

        So glad I was sitting down firmly in my chair when I read this.

        Wow!

        I won't say I told you so, cos I didn't... I will say I thought so though!!!!

        • 3 votes
        #22.3 - Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:17 PM EST
        Reply
        billy-witchdoctor-com

        I did not vote for this President....so I wont be as one said ....wanting my vote back....and as for me personally what saw from Democrats in September 1963 in Alabama at my school has prevented me from ever considering voting for Democrats where party politics matter....that being said......

        Failure is not an option .....I wish your party was not is power, but they are....I wish your party would abandon failed Rooseveltian politics of spend, spend, and spend....I dont believe this policy will work this time either....nor do I believe that this Healthcare bill is reform, nor I believe that this benefits Joe Taxpayer, rather puts the burden on Joe Taxpayer rather than insurance companies.....However again failure is not an option....your Job Mr President is to serve the(all) people of this country in the best capacity possible. I hope you consider that party lines are not as important as what is best for this country. I do not like your party's platform , so my argument will be against that platform, however if you choose that path I hope you prove me wrong. Bhuddists say there are many paths to heaven...it doesnt matter how you get there...this country needs healthcare reform...not this healthcare bill or nor do we need an enormous debt with little revenue coming in... I hope you see the right path for America...not your agenda, as much as I dont like your party or it's platform....may you turn this around, by acknowledging this policy is not working and adopt a policy that works and lead this nation towards greatness and be an example of what Americans can be when we put aside policy difference and work together for the good of the people

        • 5 votes
        Reply#23 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:20 PM EST
        Eric + Cheney

        I love the comments that blame republicans. It's the most ridiculous line of thinking possible. Especially when the Democrats own all three branches of our legislative body. Could it be that policies put forth by the far left don't pile as high as a poodle's . . ."pile?"

          Reply#24 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 7:13 PM EST
          R. Donald Snyder

          Um no, the Democrats do not have a filibuster proof majority in the Senate. There are 58 Democrats and two independents that caucus with them, but one of them is a republican pretending to be a Democrat. Also, just curious, I know about the House and the Senate, but what is the third legislative body?

          • 8 votes
          #24.1 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 7:18 PM EST
          Eric + Cheney

          Um yes, admit it; the left has it all but are complete failures, no one to blame but the fact that far left social policies have not been embraced this country. Sorry to break to ya Snyd.

            #24.2 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 7:31 PM EST
            Simplistic Reality

            but one of them is a republican pretending to be a Democrat.

            Who's that?

            • 2 votes
            #24.3 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 7:41 PM EST
            R. Donald Snyder

            Numbers don't lie, they do not have a filibuster proof majority in the Senate, no matter how you'd like to spin it. Also, I'm still wondering what the third legislative body? Perhaps you have a problem with numbers in general?

            Come on SR, who damned well know who.

            • 5 votes
            #24.4 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 7:52 PM EST
            Simplistic Reality

            Seriously I'm drawing a blank.

              #24.5 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:23 PM EST
              R. Donald Snyder

              Joe Liberman.

              • 6 votes
              #24.6 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:27 PM EST
              Simplistic Reality

              Oh yeah. That switch hitter. Forgot about that.

              • 4 votes
              #24.7 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:32 PM EST
              Reply
              maybeblu

              What I find most alarming is the comments by the establishment media who take us to task when we express our outrage over the fact that so little is being done to help the average citizen. PEOPLE are dying for lack of health care. PEOPLE are being made homeless because the large loan servicers are not handling loan modifications quickly. The media pundits scold us like we are stupid or unsophisticated or ignorant about the political process. That is not true. It's just that we are terrified that what we see happening all around us to our family, friends or neighbors will happen to us next week or next month.
              And we believe that our collective needs are greater than those of corporations. Corporations are not human, they can't die because they didn't get adequate medical care for an earache that left untreated developed into meningitis. Corporations don't die of exposure because they were thrown out of their homes.
              I have a home and job and health insurance, today, but if the job ends, so well my medical coverage and I could lose my home. But I know many others who are struggling. Being told that getting medical care and secure housing just takes time makes me want to scream. Mr. President, we the people expected you to vigorously promote OUR welfare foremost. It hasn't happened and our dismay is only growing.

              • 3 votes
              Reply#25 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:21 PM EST
              Peter17

              The problem is maybeblu that too many think that government is there to "help the average citizen". There are no guarantees in the Constitution for a good salary, a nice home, free health care, vacations at Disney World, or a well funded retirement. Those are things you are supposed to provide for yourself. You are fortunate to live in a country that allows you the freedom to become whatever you have the desire and will to be. But that is not guarantee that the rest of us have to pay for, you get to go out and EARN IT.

              Corporations are not human, they are bricks and mortar. People invest their money in a business in order to get a return on their investments. They hire execs. to run companies for the purpose of making profits and to grow those companies. If you don't like a particular company you have the obvious choice of not doing business with them.

              • 1 vote
              #25.1 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 9:26 PM EST
              Carol-99

              Peter, I think that too many think that the government is there to help corporations. As you said,

              They hire execs. to run companies for the purpose of making profits and to grow those companies. If

              If the execs fail then they should be fired, not bailed out by the government.

              • 3 votes
              #25.2 - Sat Dec 19, 2009 2:10 AM EST
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