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After being called 'Nazis' by the President of Fox News, NPR remarks on the meaning of the word.

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some of my colleagues here at NPR were called that name. Nazis.

The president of Fox News, Roger Ailes, made those remarks.

I remember when I was sent to Berlin to take up my first foreign posting as an overseas correspondent more than a decade ago. I was at a party with young Germans, and I thought it might make them feel more comfortable if I made a joke describing a hotel clerk I'd run into as a "Nazi."

No one laughed.

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Killfile

The Germans don't take Nazi jokes well. Really, very few people whose lives were touched by the Nazi regime do. Don't get me wrong; as George Carlin once said, you can joke about anything. And you can. Heck, Seinfeld successfully joked about Nazis. It's not like it can't be done.

But it's hard. It's really really hard and if you're the leader of a media organization or a party or something like that it's probably more than you can handle. It's certainly more than you should be risking and it's definitely a bad idea when your particular media organization is the biggest main-stream supporter of fascist and quasi-fascist propaganda in the country today.

Just saying...

  • 8 votes
Reply#1 - Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:19 AM EST
Troy813

I agree with you Killfile... One of my good friends is German and lives (and lived) on the former East side... you do not bring up Nazis to them at all... In fact for most Germans that I have met... it is like a dark hole in their past... they know about it but do not talk or even want to recognize it.

Over on this side of the pond, we throw that word around like it's a water balloon, without realizing the impact that they had on a quarter of the world's population. In addition on how their tossing around of that name is nothing like what that name originally stood for.

    #1.1 - Tue Nov 23, 2010 5:06 PM EST
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    madvargr

    Yeah, I must have missed it when NPR rounded up 10 million or so humans based on arbitrary reasons and then proceeded to exterminate them...

    At least we now know where Glen Beck caught his Nazi Tourett's from.

    • 8 votes
    Reply#2 - Mon Nov 22, 2010 9:05 AM EST
    CATCH A SLUG

    Once again killfile u seem to always seed these kinds of storys.

    NOW THIS IS NOT A PUT DOWN

    Are u covering up your true feeling about these issues.

    A person who can't seem to get this issue off their tongue and out of their mind and out of their life is a Nazi,clan member,or david duke follower, that have not came out the closet yet. If you really did voted for Obama it was to shut blacks up about racism in this country like most of the 85% of whites that voted for him only to call him a antichrist later. NOW THIS IS NOT A PUT DOWN. Its to help you see your true self,now come on out its ok come on.

    NOW THIS IS NOT A PUT DOWN

    • 1 vote
    Reply#3 - Mon Nov 22, 2010 9:40 AM EST
    Killfile

    Wait.... so you think I might be a closet Nazi or something? I'm confused.

    I mean... I drive a Volkswagen and know my way around Munich pretty well. Beyond that though, I'm about as far from fascism as it's possible to be.

    • 3 votes
    #3.1 - Mon Nov 22, 2010 11:35 AM EST
    jussmi1514

    NOW THIS IS NOT A PUT DOWN

    No it isn't, but I can't decide what it is. Because of the lack of logic and grammatical errors I could call it ridiculous. On the other hand, because of the racism and the accusations of racism I could call it disgusting. I hope that if the moderators don't delete this Killfile does.

    • 3 votes
    #3.2 - Mon Nov 22, 2010 11:35 AM EST
    Killfile

    Nah, I'll let it stand. Catch-A-Slug's record and rhetoric does more than enough to discredit him. Insane crap like this is useful when he takes less obviously absurd positions.

    • 2 votes
    #3.3 - Mon Nov 22, 2010 11:56 AM EST
    CATCH A SLUG

    Logic: It makes sense to me.

    That you have a problem with others whom are different.

    People like you keep story's like this going to try to promote fear or anger in people. But people like me just sit back an laugh its very funny and it proves to a lot of people that this country isn't ready for chance. IT'S THE SAME

    • 1 vote
    #3.4 - Tue Nov 23, 2010 9:43 AM EST
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    Mark the Messenger

    I spent time last year for a DUI in jail. As I should have. I have spent my time since studying who we are and where I went wrong. I mention this, because as a lifelong suburbanite and a white 40-something alcoholic male, I was introduced to the men from Oakland, Ca in Santa Rita for 88 days. I got barbeque chicken, clean clothes every day, and fresh linen on a regular basis. $100 placed on my books every week by my loving wife, read books, played cards, socialized and integrated. I even got a plush job running the kitchen. I made sure to help other inmates out with appeals. I had a guard reassigned for perjury and enjoyed protection, meditation and church services. Thank you society. Thank you Santa Rita. Thank you, honey. I'm better than ever and recovery never felt so good.

    Diction is important. It tells our background, education level, associations, bias and sometimes even what we mean. @!$%#. This word fits the diction lesson here appropriately and I am going to tie this in to Nazi and Kike. Inside, only a recognized @!$%# is allowed to call another, '@!$%#.' If anyone observes a non-@!$%# call a recognized '@!$%#;' '@!$%#,' then a beatdown of the non-@!$%# ensues. Faces are ripped off, bunks are turned inside out. Guards separate and integrate based upon the perception of control and the divisiveness of race. Separation is the intent and is used to affirm the differences, thus creating class and order from the manufactured chaos.

    I can do voice characterizations, barely. I can say the word 'nigga,' without offending some and making others laugh. It is funny to see me use the term, in public and around others to ease themselves and take back what we as a community thought to be appropriate. I never thought I'd learn it as a survival tool. I was accepted into the black-hole but was able to sleep with the woods. White people. I only had to prove that I was able to stand up for myself when the opportunity presented itself.

    I don't apologize for using the term Nazi either. Why should I? Suburbanitites use the term to describe a regime that is fascist. America has a fascist regime. Observe the two fasci hanging on eitherside of the democratic symbol of America, our flag. Imagine Fascisim bookending Democracy. It is available for all to see, it is the art behind the Speaker of the House on Capitol Hill. I'm sure slander is available for NPR. They spend a large percentage of air-time covering the cultural-geographics in Israel and Palestine, New York and Florida. Their bias is as obvious as it is with Fox. Should we simplify and brand NPR and their people as Kikes?

    In America we have @!$%#s and Nazis and Kikes because we label and reinforce these labels ourselves these names and give them meaning. We symbolize all that we stand for with art, words and activities. For one news agency to call another 'Nazi,' one must consider the source and ask oneself, if no beatdown ensues, then the agency originating the term must in fact be the true 'Nazi' in order to call out the false one. To my recollection, neither Nazis nor Kikes are @!$%#s and neither had an assoication until actions and reinforcements became relevant. Hence, Fox is the Nazi and NPR is the Kike and we are all, 'my @!$%#.'

    Why does this prevent us from enjoying peace? The guards are restless, paranoid and masochistic. Stability in the the "house" would allow peaceful bonds to form: coalition instead or fragmentation and unity in the common core thoughts, actions and speech of a truly democractic society. It is time to drop the lible and slander - stop calling ourselves a free society. For we are neither democratic nor republic if we have a ruling party of fascist elite benifiting from our own chaos. We are Fascist. Only a face.

    Faces are diction. What we put on every day we reinforce. We slight, approve, acknowlege and ignore with it. Look at our face. See the pockmarks, the scars. We need healing. And we need it now. If Fox is the real Nazi, NPR the real Kike and everyone else is 'my nigga,' can't we do something about the guards before it is too late?

    • 1 vote
    Reply#4 - Mon Nov 22, 2010 12:09 PM EST
    ksilvers59

    Once upon a time words had meaning, right of the political spectrum was fascism and left was communism. Today the right calls left right and the right left. This has occurred in the Obama era when it must had drove sanity of the right, right out the window. Today any opposing words can be thrown in together for the sake of name calling. All in the course of dumbing down America.

    • 1 vote
    Reply#5 - Tue Nov 23, 2010 1:38 PM EST
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